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<i>Coup to Kill, Evidences for a Coup D'etat Conspiracy to Assassinate President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, & Cover it Up! 50 Years Later, 11-22-2013</i>. From the perspectives of a former Security Officer, Investigative Reporter, Radio Producer & Historical Research Specialist. Darell Thorpe.<br />
Currently Radio Producer for <i>Drive Time Live, The Mills Crenshaw Show</i>, airs M-F 3-6PM Mountain Time. Darell as guest, talking about this case study, Thursday 11-21-2013, 3-6PM Mountain Time.<br />
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<b>Answers to Common Anti-Mormons Christians' Rantings & Spewing forth Disinformation!</b></div>
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Producer of <i>Drive Time Live, The Mills Crenshaw Show</i></div>
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Darell Thorpe, May 16, 2013, Thursday</div>
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Today, again, I heard an anti-Mormon "Christian" TV
program, where the host has on "Christian" ministers, ex-Mormons, or
"apostates," to spew forth as much disinformation as possible against
members of <i>The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints</i>, (Commonly known as <a href="http://millscrenshawdrivetimeliveschedule.blogspot.com/#" id="_GPLITA_1" style="text-decoration: underline;" title="Click to Continue > by Text-Enhance">LDS</a>, Mormons). Many of things they talk about have been answered over and over again by <a href="http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/">LDS scholars</a>, and <a href="http://www.fairlds.org/links">LDS apologists</a>. I called in again, tried to confront her about how the same types of issues that were brought up by <a href="http://www.bing.com/search?q=early+anti-Christians&FORM=PERNSB&PC=PE01">early anti-Christians</a>,
against early Christians; are the same types of issues that modern anti-Mormon
"Christians," now bring up against Mormon-Christians. This last time, I got cut off, the volume got turned down. Thus, it seems that
the host and her guests, don't want to deal with the same types of
issues, as they are reflected back to them from early anti-Christian
writings. It also seems that they don't also want to deal with the same types of beliefs and rituals as found in <a href="http://www.ccel.org/fathers.html"><i>early Christian writings</i></a> that expound on the same types of
beliefs restored in the LDS church. So, when I've called several times, I've
backed up points with sources from <a href="http://restoredapologetics.blogspot.com/2010/02/11.html">historic biblical Christianity; from early Christian writings, art works & polemics</a>. Many of these critics only seem interested in spewing forth as much disinformation as possible with the use of <a href="http://restoredapologetics.blogspot.com/2010/02/mormonism-shadow-or-reality-in-historic.html">the same types of early anti-Christians' methods, tactics</a>, and "reasons" why not to believe," as <i>Atheists</i> use as "reasons why not to believe," against all religions.<br />
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For a detailed rough draft study on this see: </div>
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<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mormonism-Christianity-anti-Christian-anti-Mormons-ebook/dp/B005R99I70/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1368765256&sr=8-16&keywords=Darell+Thorpe"><span style="font-size: 100%;"><i><span id="btAsinTitle">Mormonism:
Shadow or Reality in Historic Biblical Christianity - Early
anti-Christian writings Parallel Modern anti-Mormons' Writings [Kindle
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1.
A common charge is that critics constantly spew out over and over again
is the charge that the bible does not teach that humans can become
gods, or goddesses. That LDS believe that they can become gods. Answer:
The Bible does teach what is called deification. The early Christians
cite the bible in defense of their own versions of deification, which is
that humans can become gods, or goddesses in the eternal after life
realms. <b>1</b><br />
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2.
Another common charge is that "the Book of Mormon is racists!" Critics
interpret, like some early LDS church leaders did, and some member still
do; that: "The black skins, and the turning of black skins to white,"
are literally in reference to actual skin colors changing. However,
many early to modern critics; and many members of the LDS church today,
are not familiar with studies that show how the references to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL679293A6FD84EFF0">"black skins," turning "white," could actually be symbolic</a>,
not literal. Anciently, ritualistic garments were made out of animal
skins. If your white robes, skins, or garments became spotted, darkened,
or stained with sins to the point of blackness, that wasn't going to
be good for you before God's judgment bar. Thus, to wash, purify,
cleanse, and removed those spots, stains and blood, or sins from your
garments, through Christ's atonement; your "skins" would become white!
In other words, your ritualistic robes, or garments made out of animal
skins, would become white. Thus, after careful studies in <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL679293A6FD84EFF0">ancient ritualistic garment color symbolism</a>,
the Book of Mormon shows its ancient typologies, that it is an ancient
text, translated into 1830s English of early America. This is the
answer to this charge that The Book of Mormon is alleged to be racist. <b>2</b><br />
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3. Another charge is that the bible does not teach any type of preexistence of spirit before birth. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Pre-existence-Pre-earth-Spirits-ebook/dp/B005QYY07E/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1368769412&sr=8-22&keywords=Darell+Thorpe">The fact is, historic biblical Christianity is filled with the beliefs in a preexistence</a>.
It was in later centuries that they started to argue over what it
meant, and eventually reject it. Christianity preserved the belief, to a
certain extent, in art works, writings, and later legends. However,
for critics to call the belief restored in Mormonism, as being Satanic,
Devilish, or Luciferian, is ironic! Especially, when we consider that
the very mention of the devil, satan, etc., taps into the preexistence
beliefs. Especially when one researches the fallen angels, the war in
heaven, and satan's as a fallen angel. Those are preexistence themes in
early Christianity! <b>3</b><br />
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4. Another charge and LDS belief that is sometimes unwisely mocked, is the belief that <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6F1D1B591FDE2A2A"><i>Christ went to the ancient Americas</i></a>. Or to all the world, after his resurrection. Again, it was an early Christian belief that Christ went to all the earth. <a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/03/christ-in-santa-unmasked.html">It also answered the early anti-Christians charge the Christ neglected other nations.</a> However, this belief about <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Christ-World-Wounded-Wanderer-ebook/dp/B005R8B5R2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1368769924&sr=8-4&keywords=Darell+Thorpe">Christ's world wide trek</a>, eventually became part of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Christ-Santa-Claus-Unmasked-ebook/dp/B005R8B15I/ref=sr_1_45?ie=UTF8&qid=1368769674&sr=8-45&keywords=Darell+Thorpe">the lore about Santa Claus' frosty annual Christmas rounds</a>. <b>4</b><br />
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5. Another charge that critics sometimes ignorantly mock, is the LDS beliefs in <i>salvation for the dead</i>; that the gospel was, and still is being preached to the <a href="http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=christ%27s+descent+into+hell+movie&FORM=HDRSC2">spirits in a spirit prison</a>. Have modern Christians forgotten their earlier creeds? Some earlier ones include "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL96CD5639D3ED8CBE">Christ's descent into hell</a>." <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Upon-Them-Light-Shined-ebook/dp/B005QY5NZM/ref=sr_1_34?ie=UTF8&qid=1368770508&sr=8-34&keywords=Darell+Thorpe">Early Christian baptism was a type of Christ's descent</a> into hell too. Plus, <a href="http://baptismforthedead.blogspot.com/">baptism for the dead</a>
was part of the descent into hell doctrines of early Christianity.
But, like the other beliefs and their ritualistic types, they too
became legends and were almost forgotten with time. <b>5</b><br />
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6.
Another creed that critics stick to is, "there is not one shred of
evidence for The Book of Mormon!" What if there was at least one? Then
there could be two, and so forth, to many, many evidences! But, critics
want to stick to their claims that there isn't any, and ignore research
and studies, artifacts, and other things that shows that <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mormon-Evidences-Again-Cause-ebook/dp/B005WFU81Y/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1368770977&sr=8-10&keywords=Darell+Thorpe">there are many evidences for the Book of Mormon</a>. <b>6</b><br />
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7. Another charge that critics make is that biblical Christianity didn't have temple type of ordinances. The fact is, that <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Evidences-Historic-Christianity-Endowment-ebook/dp/B005RWT2DC/ref=sr_1_56?ie=UTF8&qid=1368771562&sr=8-56&keywords=Darell+Thorpe">historic biblical Christianity is filled with evidences that they had temple type mysteries</a>. We see it in their scriptures, writings, art works and rituals. <b>7</b><br />
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8.
Another false charge is that LDS Church is seeking to take over
America and the world. The fact is, that the LDS church's prophets, the
Book of Mormon and LDS patriots have been warning the world, for years
now, that it's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Endangered-Species-Combinations-Population-ebook/dp/B005RVCQIG/ref=sr_1_39?ie=UTF8&qid=1368771944&sr=8-39&keywords=Darell+Thorpe">secret combinations that are seeking to destroy America and the freedoms of all lands, people and countries</a>. <b>8</b><br />
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1. See: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD49843228DBE7C0E">Discussions on Deification on You Tube</a>.</div>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL87AC6F2DB243A3F6">Contrasting Early Christian versions of deification with LDS' Versions</a>.</div>
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<a href="http://www.fairblog.org/2013/01/16/mormon-fair-cast-125-deification-in-lds-and-early-christian-thought/">Martin Tanner, KSL, March 27, 2011 Deification in early Christianity- Becoming a god!</a>.</div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span><span id="btAsinTitle"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Children-Most-High-ebook/dp/B005R8M1EI/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&qid=1368767512&sr=8-28&keywords=Darell+Thorpe">Ye
Are Gods... Children of the Most High: Studies of Deification &
Perfection to Godhood in Historic Christianity, NDEs, Polemics & Art
works</a> <span style="text-transform: capitalize;">[Kindle Edition]</span></span></span></span></h1>
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<span id="btAsinTitle">3. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Pre-existence-Pre-earth-Spirits-ebook/dp/B005QYY07E/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1368769412&sr=8-22&keywords=Darell+Thorpe">The Pre-existence: Our Pre-earth Life as Spirits In A Family in Heaven</a></span><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Pre-existence-Pre-earth-Spirits-ebook/dp/B005QYY07E/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1368769412&sr=8-22&keywords=Darell+Thorpe"><br /></a> <a href="http://radiorecast.com/ktalk/archive/Mills_Crenshaw/2013%200123%20Sarah%20Hinze%20-%20Susan%20Freeman%20-%20Darrell%20Thorpe%20PRE%20BIRTH%20NEAR%20DEATH%20EXPERIENCES.mp3">2013 0123 Sarah Hinze - Susan Freeman - Darell Thorpe PRE BIRTH NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES.mp3</a><br />
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<span id="btAsinTitle">4. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Christ-Santa-Claus-Unmasked-ebook/dp/B005R8B15I/ref=sr_1_45?ie=UTF8&qid=1368769674&sr=8-45&keywords=Darell+Thorpe"><i>The Christ in Santa Claus Unmasked: How Early Christian Doctrines about Christ's World Wide Treks Became Legends</i></a> </span><span style="font-size: 100%;"><span id="btAsinTitle"> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Christ-World-Wounded-Wanderer-ebook/dp/B005R8B5R2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1368769924&sr=8-4&keywords=Darell+Thorpe"><i>Christ The World Wide Wounded Wanderer</i></a> <span style="text-transform: capitalize;"> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6F1D1B591FDE2A2A"><i>Christ As Cosmic Cruiser</i></a>.</span></span></span><br />
<br /><a href="http://radiorecast.com/ktalk/archive/Mills_Crenshaw/2012%201221%20DARRELL%20THORPE%20The%20Santa%20Legand%20through%20the%20centuries.mp3">2012 12-21 DARRELL THORPE The Santa Legends through the centuries.mp3</a><br />
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<span style="font-size: 100%;"><span id="btAsinTitle"><span style="text-transform: capitalize;">5</span></span>. </span><span id="btAsinTitle"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Upon-Them-Light-Shined-ebook/dp/B005QY5NZM/ref=sr_1_34?ie=UTF8&qid=1368770508&sr=8-34&keywords=Darell+Thorpe"><i>Upon Them Hath The Light Shined - Christ's Descent into Hell to Preach the Gospel </i></a><span style="font-size: 16px; text-transform: capitalize;"> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL96CD5639D3ED8CBE"><i>Christ's descent into Hell and baptism as a type of descent</i></a>.</span></span></div>
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6. <span id="btAsinTitle"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mormon-Evidences-Again-Cause-ebook/dp/B005WFU81Y/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1368770977&sr=8-10&keywords=Darell+Thorpe"><i>No Book of Mormon Evidences? Look Again! Cause There Is!</i></a> <span style="font-size: 16px; text-transform: capitalize;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB05E6CE2774F96D6">Book of Mormon Evidences</a>.</span></span></div>
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<span id="btAsinTitle"><span style="font-size: 16px; text-transform: capitalize;">7. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL06999F18F16B1032">Temple evidences in early Christian art Works and Writings</a>. </span></span></div>
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<span id="btAsinTitle"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Protective-Garments-Historic-Christianity-ebook/dp/B005R8XPR0/ref=sr_1_51?ie=UTF8&qid=1368771491&sr=8-51&keywords=Darell+Thorpe"><i>Holy & Protective Garments in Historic Christianity: Symbols of Deification, Resurrection, Clothed in Righteousness</i></a> <span style="font-size: 16px; text-transform: capitalize;">scroll down in blog to, </span></span><b><a href="http://drivetimelivearchivespromossources.blogspot.com/"><i>Passover, Easter & Garment Types of Deification in the Resurrection </i></a>(Easter Sunday, 4-8-2012); </b><span id="btAsinTitle"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Evidences-Historic-Christianity-Endowment-ebook/dp/B005RWT2DC/ref=sr_1_56?ie=UTF8&qid=1368771562&sr=8-56&keywords=Darell+Thorpe"><i><b></b>Evidences
That Historic Christianity Had The Temple Endowment: Ritualistic Realm
Travels in Early Christian Mysteries, Writings, Art Works &
Legends</i></a><span style="font-size: 16px; text-transform: capitalize;"></span></span></div>
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Species: Humanity - Evidences of Secret Combinations Seeking to Reduce
World Population and Enslave the Globe for their New World Order!</i></a><span style="font-size: 16px; text-transform: capitalize;"> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD0F487F842A3EBAD"><i>Warnings about Secret Combinations</i></a>. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL26AA89B58D77806C"><i>Because of this Secret Combination</i></a>. Blog link to articles on <a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/02/evidences-of-book-of-mormons-lds.html">NWO</a>!</span></span></div>
Series: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL87AC6F2DB243A3F6&feature=plcp" style="font-style: italic;">Contrasting LDS & Early Christian Versions of Deification</a>).<h2 class="title" style="text-align: center;">
<span style="font-size: large;">Are Early Christians Christians? If Not, How Could Modern Christians Be Christians?</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Darell Thorpe, Associate Producer's Comments & Notes, 1-31-12</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">What a lot of modern Christians don't realize, or care to look into, or want to accept, are these: There are a lot of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mormonism-Christianity-anti-Christian-anti-Mormons-ebook/dp/B005R99I70/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1328070923&sr=8-11" style="font-style: italic;">similar arguments</a></span><span style="color: red; font-weight: bold;">1</span><span style="font-weight: bold;"> that <a href="http://www.fairlds.org/pubs/Celsus.pdf">early anti-Christians </a>made <a href="http://pacumenispages.yuku.com/topic/4588/Devil-Restored-early-antiChristians-through-modern-critics#.TyjG8tXGGSo">against early Christians</a>; and those made by modern "Christians" against Mormon-Christians.</span><span style="color: red; font-weight: bold;">2</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;"><a href="http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/latter-day-saints/TA5R4BO83H9OD39T8">Answers that early Christian apologists gave</a> their critics, still answers modern anti-Mormon "Christians!"<span style="color: red;">3</span> The challenges are for modern Christians to answer the same types of charges; which answers would then be their own <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12Sp_5Tt7Qk&list=PLCDBA70102AB1EF3B&index=36&feature=plpp_video">answers to their own charges</a> made against the LDS church. How they might answer early critics </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">without </span><span style="font-weight: bold;">the use of doctrines that </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">the early Christians used</span><span style="font-weight: bold;">, would be interesting to see too!<span style="color: red;"></span><br /><br />Early Christian beliefs, doctrines & their ritualistic mysteries or dramas of those beliefs; all helped to answers many <a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/09/historic-vilifications-of-religionists.html" style="font-style: italic;">early anti-Christian charges</a>.
However, many modern Christians have later ignored; or are ignorant of
the following doctrines & beliefs; while many others now reject
them. As centuries went by, some Christian sects discontinued, or turned
these earlier things into legends & traditions.<span style="color: red;">4</span>
Which, though they have some fragmented reminders of what they once
were, are still in retrogressed, apostate, and legendized forms. Which
many modern Christians now practice, while they are poking fun of, &
rejecting the restored versions of many of these things, as they are
restored in Mormonism, or <span style="font-style: italic;">The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints</span>.<br /><br />A case in point was how one time some anti-Mormon "Christians," at the Utah State fair, were making fun of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Protective-Garments-Historic-Christianity-ebook/dp/B005R8XPR0/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1328077553&sr=1-2">LDS temple garments</a>.
I asked them if their parents ever gave them "new clothing," during
Easter. Some of them said "yes." I asked if they knew where the
tradition came from? "No." I then pointed out how that it comes from
earlier Christian customs of putting on white robes of baptism during
Whitesunday.<span style="color: red;">5</span> These go back to early Christian <a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/03/evidences-that-historic-biblical.html">temple type mysteries</a>, of being anointed, & clothed in white garments.<span style="color: red;">6</span> So, while they accepted the later legendize traditions of <span style="font-style: italic;">new clothing</span> for Easter, they rejected & made fun of the restored version of it.<br /><br />It's
ironic too, because of how the following doctrines, beliefs &
rituals, are so well documented in historic Christianity. So it makes
us wonder what "historic Christianity," and "biblical Christianity"
they are talking about! Especially when <span style="font-style: italic;">they</span> charge that Mormons are <span style="font-style: italic;">not </span>Christians
because they don't go along with "historic biblical Christianity!" It
might be that Mormons-Christians might be more comfortable with many
earlier Christian beliefs, than many modern Christians might. Or, at
least those beliefs and rituals that have been restored by modern
prophets in Mormonism. But, not the diverse off shoot beliefs &
apostate practices that later developed during the dark ages, & in
different versions of rituals & beliefs that early to later
Christians argued about for centuries.</span><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: red;">7</span></span><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br /><br />Cases in point of early Christian beliefs now legendized:<br /><br />1. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Pre-existence-Pre-earth-Spirits-Family-ebook/dp/B005QYY07E/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1320292423&sr=1-3">Preexistence</a> of our souls before birth into our own physical body.<br /><br />2. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Upon-Them-Light-Shined-ebook/dp/B005QY5NZM/ref=sr_1_7?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1328072819&sr=1-7">Christ's descent into hell</a> to preach the gospel.<br /><br />3. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Christ-World-Wounded-Wanderer-ebook/dp/B005R8B5R2/ref=sr_1_9?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1328072897&sr=1-9">Christ's pre-birth & post-resurrection world wide visits to other nations</a>.<br /><br />4. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Children-Most-High-ebook/dp/B005R8M1EI/ref=sr_1_4?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1328072952&sr=1-4">Deification, (becoming gods).</a><br /><br />Preexistence, Christ's descent, his world wide treks answered the ancient critics' charges that Christ <span style="font-style: italic;">neglected</span>
other people, nations & those of pre-Christian times. If Christ
pre-existed, he could have talked to prophets around the world in
pre-Christian times. If he went to the spirit prison after his death, he
could have preach the gospel there too. If he went to other nations,
he wasn't <span style="font-style: italic;">neglectful</span>, as charged, of <span style="font-style: italic;">neglecting millions of souls</span>, for all would eventually get a fair chance to hear the gospel, if not in this life, in the next realms.<span style="color: red;">8</span><br /><br /><span style="color: red;">The pre-existence</span>
was taught by the earliest Christians, while some later began to
reject it too. Later, it was rejected by much later Church councils,
like in 553 AD, during the Council of Constantinople. In other areas of
Christianity, it was preserved in thousands of art works; while in
other areas, it became legends, myths, stories & strange customs.
Legends about water spirits, fairies, underworld demons, like in <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrbR1t-K91I"><span style="font-style: italic;">Lord of the Rings</span></a>,
where Gandalf falls and battles with a demon from the ancient world,
Balrog, as they fall down into the deep places of the earth. This is a
legendized version of Michael's combat with Satan, falling from heaven,
crashing down into the underworld. Other pre-existence themes
legendized are in stories about gulls, trolls, goblins, & strange
creatures of the woods, lakes & streams; which are the fallen
angels, which when cast out of heaven, during the war in heaven, fell
into the deep places of the earth, & other places. Ironically, many
modern anti-Mormon "Christians," have to use parts of the
pre-existence doctrine, to make the false charge that "Mormons are <span style="font-style: italic;">satanic</span>!" Or are "<span style="font-style: italic;">devil</span> worshipers!" What nonsense! The very mention of "<span style="font-style: italic;">devil</span>," or "<span style="font-style: italic;">satan</span>,"
taps into the doctrine of the pre-existence, because of how the devil
or satan is said to be a fallen angel, who made war in heaven.<br /><br /><span style="color: red;">Christ's Descent into Hell:</span>
Though many modern Christians still hold to this belief, many others
don't, they reject it, or don't know about it. It's ironic, however, to
hear anti-Mormon "Christians," poke fun of LDS' beliefs in <span style="font-style: italic;">salvation for the dead</span>, & baptism for the dead, when earlier Christian creeds mention <span style="font-style: italic;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVXVJ5ujJFM&feature=related">Christ's descent into hell</a>.</span>
Moreover, baptism for the dead were done by earliest Christians; but
then, were eventually discontinued too. Different strange versions were
developed in Masses, Liturgical rites & mysteries, derived from
earlier Christian rituals for the dead, such as prayers. Other versions,
that of baptism of dead bodies, were discontinued by later Christian
councils, such as at Hippo and Carthage, during the late 4th century. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw8tCE8fa1s&feature=plcp&context=C39d6e11UDOEgsToPDskIiPZ3NV2klRekVKHSz9uWE">Thousands of art works show Christ in hell,</a>
with angels, prophets & saints, all preaching the gospel &
freeing souls out of hell. The ritualistic types & dramas that acted
out this event were earlier forms of baptism. Baptism being a type of
being buried with Christ and raised in the resurrection with Christ.
Baptism also included anointings, washings, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL679293A6FD84EFF0&feature=plcp">putting on new ritualistic garments</a>,
& in some cases, hand clasps, as those coming up out of fonts
would be ritualistically pulled up, like in the resurrection. One of
the most popular ways to show the descent & resurrection,
especially in iconography of the Anastasis, is to show <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF77C8E735D3F732D&feature=plcp">different types of hand & wrist grips</a>
in lifting souls up in the resurrection. Christ's descent was even
made fun of by early anti-Christian, Celsus, writing about 170-80 AD.
He also knew about & rejected the early Christians' different
versions about the pre-existence, of 2 divine sons fighting in a war in
heaven; & the fall of the angels down into the underworld to then
be put in chains. A theme so often depicted in historic Christian art
works all over historic biblical Christianity down through the
centuries.<br /><br /><span style="color: red;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0G2cudnEIw&feature=autoplay&list=PL0B6EF521DAC91502&playnext=2">Christ's world wide trek</a> </span>before
his birth & during his post-resurrection victory march throughout
the world, also must have been noted by ancient critics too, who made
fun of Christ as being a wanderer, who couldn't stay put. Contradicting
their own charges, critics would ignore Christ's descent & world
wanderings, to then charge that Christ was <span style="font-style: italic;">neglectful</span>
of other nations, & that he couldn't rule or extend the boundaries
of his kingdom beyond the paths of the sun, like the pagan gods could.
Christian apologists said that he could & did! But, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Christ-Santa-Claus-Unmasked-ebook/dp/B005R8B15I/ref=sr_1_6?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1328074563&sr=1-6">Christ's world wide trek fades off into later traditions & stories about Santa Claus'</a> frosty annual flights all over the world. So, while many modern Christians do the <span style="font-style: italic;">Christmas things</span>, they reject the Book of Mormon's account of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxTIiOKpx2E&feature=related">Christ's post-resurrection visitation in glory to the ancient Americas</a>.
And of him speaking to prophet in the ancient Americas, during his
pre-existence too. Christ world wide treks were preserved in many later
legends about the Christ-child's wanderings about to visit & test
St. Dorothy, St. Martin, St. Christopher, St. Augustine, & many
others. <a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/03/christ-in-santa-unmasked.html">Wandering Christ-child stories</a> are still popular in many Christmas stories too; which became German <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3lbMmE9UYM&playnext=1&list=PL0B6EF521DAC91502"><span style="font-style: italic;">Christkindl</span></a> legends; which became Kriss Kringle stories; which some threads of the traditions, became <span style="font-style: italic;">Santa Claus</span>. How might modern anti-Mormon "Christians" answer the early anti-Christian charges that Christ <span style="font-style: italic;">neglected </span>other people and nations, <span style="font-style: italic;">without </span>the use of the early Christian doctrine that <span style="font-style: italic;">Christ went to other nations</span>,
(as the Book of Mormon testifies too), is interesting. Some say that
Christ could have went. Others that he couldn't of because, "there's no
evidence that he did," because the Ancient Americans were so
"paganistic & barbaric!" So would this mean the the <span style="font-style: italic;">devil</span>, & his <span style="font-style: italic;">demons</span> (oh! there are those <span style="font-style: italic;">pre-existence</span> words again!), were able to travel to the ancient Americas, but Christ didn't? What ever be the case, <span style="font-style: italic;">The Book of Mormon</span> is one of those "extra-biblical" books that many anti-Mormon "Christians" say, makes Mormons "not Christians!" Even though <span style="font-style: italic;">The Book of Mormon</span> is a back up witness with the bible, for Christ?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL87AC6F2DB243A3F6&feature=plcp"><span style="color: red;">Deification, (becoming gods):</span></a>
It's ironic that many modern Christians will claim that Mormons can't
be Christians because they don't accept the Nicene Creed of 325 AD.,
which is extra biblical, the formula of the creed is not in the
scriptures.<span style="color: red;">9</span> Which is another charge many critics say makes Mormons "not Christians," because "they believe in extra-biblical books," like <span style="font-style: italic;">The Book of Mormon</span>, <span style="font-style: italic;">Doctrine & Covenants</span> & <span style="font-style: italic;">Pearl of Great Price</span> & the <span style="font-style: italic;">Bible</span>,
'as far as it is translated correctly.'" Another thing critics say
makes Mormons "not Christians," is their belief that "Mormons teach they
can become gods!" The irony is that the critics have to tap into the
doctrine of pre-existence again to charge this! For <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJRG2bwphUc&list=PLCD47FA2CC7176BA2&index=15&feature=plpp_video">one of the beliefs that critics</a> say makes Mormons "devilish," "satanic" & a non-Christian "cult!" is that they are "<span style="font-style: italic;">Godmakers</span>!" The <span style="font-style: italic;">irony</span>
continues when we take into account that the same early Christian
fathers of the 4th century, who were made to accept Emperor
Constantine's edict to accept the <span style="font-style: italic;">Nicene creed</span>, or else! Are some of the same ones who also <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OgFdX-Tkis&list=PLCD47FA2CC7176BA2&index=14&feature=plpp_video">taught their own versions of <span style="font-style: italic;">deification</span></a>,
that early Christians could become gods, or become like Christ.
Different versions of deification were shaped, & developed as the
doctrines about what "god" was said to be like; were argued over by
early to later Christians, before, during, & after the Nicene Creed
era of 325 AD. (See: <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Ante-Nicene+Fathers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a">The Ante-Nicene Fathers</a> series, <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Nicene+%26+Post+Nicene+Fathers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a">The Nicene & Post Nicene Fathers</a> series).<br /><br />Also, a physical resurrection, eventually was argued to be just a <span style="font-style: italic;">spiritual resurrection</span>,
& so this influenced later versions of deification that became
anti-body types. The deified would not need a resurrected body to be
gods or goddesses in the eternities, claimed certain early to later
Christians, such as Origen. Other areas of Christianity also had a
difficult time in depicting the godhead, for if, as the Nicene Creed
said, there is only one God, or they three are one! How were they to be
depicted in art? Three rabbits, triangles, stars, circles, a hand
extending out of a cloud; 3 heads on one body; 3 faces on one head. All
these became symbolical ways to represent the 3-in-1 "godhead," in
post-Nicene Christianity. So the doctrine of deification was also
effected too by the changes in what God was said to be like. That's why
later Christians talk about becoming one with the "one God" in the
3-in-1 Godhead, in being perfected and deified. Later debates were held,
such as in Northern Europe, in 400 AD, about what <span style="font-style: italic;">perfection</span>
meant. Perfection, being a part of deification, was also made fun of
by Celsus, who talked about how the earlier Christians believed in an
old worn out myth; & how they were teaching each other that they
can be perfect. Deification also answer the early anti-Christians'
mocking questions about why Christ, who created the universe, would
need to come down to earth to work with wood? Was it to see what was
happening here? Why did he need food, need to travel about & be
born into a physical body of a man? Why did god become a man? The
answer that early Christian Apologists gave, which taps into the
doctrine of deification, was that Christ became a man so you can learn
from a man how to become god. (See the <span style="font-style: italic;">You Tube</span>
series of another debate, which Martin Tanner took part in on K-Talk,
about deification. Plus, Darell Thorpe discussing deification with a
critic. Series: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL87AC6F2DB243A3F6&feature=plcp" style="font-style: italic;">Contrasting LDS & Early Christian Versions of Deification</a>).<br /><br />With
the restoration of many of these ancient beliefs and doctrines, as
members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints testify. The
fact that these beliefs answered many issues raised by early
anti-Christians; still can be answers to many modern issues &
questions. Why are we here? Where do we go after death? Did Christ go to
other nations, if he died for the sins of the whole world? What about
prophets & apostles? Or is God silent & uninterested in
speaking to them, as in times of old? What about those who didn't hear
about Christ, before the Christian era? What will happen to these
millions of souls? What about those who died after Christ, the millions
of souls in other nations who never heard? What's going to happen to
them?<br /><br />The answers that the restored gospel gives to these
questions have been vilified, rejected & said to be some of the
reasons why Mormons can't be Christians. However, the same answers,
with parallel beliefs & doctrines used, by earlier Christians,
still should be considered. As with the questions; that if these
doctrines are ones which makes Mormons "not Christians." What then
would become of the early Christians who believed in their own versions
of them, though not exactly the same as the restored versions? Would
their own versions make them also disqualified as being <span style="font-style: italic;">not</span> Christians? If so, where would that leave modern ones? How could modern Christians be Christians?<br /><br />Bibliography:<br /><br />A. S. Garretson, Primitive Christianity And Early Criticism,(Boston: Sherman, French & Company, 1912).</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">1: Old Testament and Related Subjects, (1986).</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">2: Enoch The Prophet, (1986).</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">3: The World And The Prophets,</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">4: Mormonism and Early Christianity, (1987).</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> And other volumes in this series.</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">James L . Barker, Apostasy From The Divine Church, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Deseret News Press, 1960).</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
Barker, The Divine Church, Down through Change, Apostasy therefrom,
and Restoration, (Salt Lake City, Utah: The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, The Council of The Twelve Apostles, 1952, CR David
O. McKay 1951), three volumes: 1952, 1953, 1954.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">James M. Robinson, The Nag Hammadi Library In English, (San Francisco, California: Harper & Row, 1977).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">John
P. Lundy, Monumental Christianity, Or the Art and Symbolism of the
Primitive Church, (New York: J. W. Bouton, 1875 & 1882).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">John
Pope-Hennessy, Fra Angelico, (London, England: Phaidon Press, 1952,
CR 1974, Phaidon Press, LTD. And in Ithaca, New York: Cornell
University Press, 1974).</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;">Italian Renaissance Sculpture, (London, England: Phaidon Press, 1958).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">John Rupert Martin, The Illustration Of The Heavenly Ladder of John Climacus, (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1954).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Jonathan
Alexander and Paul Binski, (Editor), Age of Chivalry, Art in
Plantagenet England 1200--1400, (Weidenfeld and Nicolson, London: Royal
Academy of Arts, London, 1987).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Joseph Campbell, Bill Moyes (Editor), The Power Of Myth, (New York, U.S.A., and London, England: Doubleday, 1988).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Joseph Gantner & Marcel Pobe, Romanesque Art In France, (London, England: Thames & Hudson, 1956).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Joseph
Pijoan, and Glenn Frank, (Editor in Chief), The University Of Wonder
Books, Art In The Middle Ages, (Chicago: University of Knowledge, Inc.,
1940).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Joseph Wilson
Trigg, Origen (The Bible and Philosophy in the Third-century Church),
(Atlanta: 1946, 1952, 1971, 1973, & John Knox Press, 1983).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">J. P. Migne, Patrologiae Cursus Completus; Series Latina, 221 volumes; (Paris: 1844-1864).</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;">Patrologia Cursus Completus, Series Graeca (Paris: 1857-1866, 161 volumes).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Juan
Ainaud de Lasarte, (introduction), Art Treasures In Spain, Monuments,
Masterpieces, Commissions and Collections, (New York: McGraw-Hill Book
Company; Toronto: CR The Hamlyn Publisher Group 1969).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Julian
Gardner, The Tomb And The Tiara, Curial Tomb Sculpture in Rome and
Avignon in the Later Middle Ages, (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1992).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Justino
Fernandez, Arte Mexicano, De Sus Origenes a Nuestros Dias, (Av.
República Argentina, 15; México, D. F.: Editorial Porrua, S.A., 1961),
Segunda Edicion.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Kenneth Clark, Civilisation, A Personal View, (New York and Evanston: Harper & Row, 1969).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Konrad Onasch, 1961, Ikonen, (Guterslocher Verlashaus Gerd Mohn).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Kurt
Rudolph, and Robert McLachlan Wilson (translation editor), Gnosis The
Nature and History of Gnosticism, (San Francisco, California: Harper
& Row Publishers, 1977, 1980, and 1984).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Kurt Weitzmann, (Essays), Studies In The Arts At Sinai, (New Jersey: Princeton University Press, 1982).</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> Byzantine Book Illumination & Ivories, (London: Variorum Reprints, 1980).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> The Miniatures Of The Sacra Parallela (Parisinus Graecus 923), (Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press, 1979).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
Illustrations In Roll & Codex, A Study of The Origin &
Method of Text Illustration, (Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton
University Press, 1947).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
Weitzmann, (Editor, Herbert L. Kessler), Studies In Classical &
Byzantine Manuscript Illumination, (Chicago, U.S.A., and London,
England: The University of Chicago Press, 1971).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> Weitzmann, (Editor), Age Of Spirituality, 1979.</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> The Icon, (New York: Arnoldori Editore, & Alfred A. Knopf., Inc. 1982).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
Weitzmann's Studies In Classical And Byzantine Manuscript
Illumination, edited by Herbert L. Kessler, (Chicago; London: University
of Chicago Press, 1971).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> Weitzmann, & others, Arnoldori Editor, The Icon, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1982).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
Illuminated Greek Manuscripts from American Collections, An
Exhibition in Honor of Kurt Weitzmann, Edited by Gary Vikan, (The Art
Museum, Princeton University Press, 1973, [Dates of exhibition April
14--May 20, 1973].</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Leo MacCauley and Anthony Stephenson, The Works of Saint Cyril of Jerusalem, (Washington D.C.: Catholic University Press, 1964).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Leonard W. Cowie, 1962, The March of the Cross, (New York, U.S.A.; Toronto, Canada; and London, England: McGraw-Hill Book).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Leopold
Wagner, Manners, Customs, & Observances, Their Origin &
Signification, (London: Scripta Manent, William Heinemann, 1894,
republished in Detroit, Michigan: Gale Research Company, Book Tower,
1968). </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Lilian M.C.
Randall, Medieval and Renaissance Manuscripts in the Walters Art
Gallery, Vol. I, France, 875-1420, (Baltimore & London: The Johns
Hopkins University Press, with the Walters Art Gallery, 1989).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Lillian
Eichler, The Customs Of Mankind (With Notes on Modern Etiquette and
the Newest Trend in Entertainment), (Garden City , New York: Nelson
Doubleday, Inc., 1924).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Linda J. Ivanits, Russian Folk Belief, (Armonk, New York; and London, England: M.E. Sharpe, Inc. 1989).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">L.
M. J. Delaisse, (Commentaries), Medieval Miniatures, From the
Department of Manuscripts, Formerly the "Library of Burgundy" (New York:
Harry N. Abrams, Inc., The Royal Library of Belgium).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Louis
Coulange (Father Louis Coulange), The Life of the Devil (London,
England: Alfred A. Knopf, 1929, translated from the French by Stephen
Haden Quest).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Louis
Herbert Gray, A.M., PH.D., Editor, George Foot Moore, A.M., D.D., LL.D.
The Mythology of All Races (Boston: Marshall Jones Company, 1917; New
York: Cooper Square, 1964), thirteen volumes.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Louis Reau, La Miniature, Histoire De La Peinture Au Moyen-Age, (Melun Librairie D'Argences, MCMXLVI).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">L. Taylor Hansen, He Walked The Americas, (Amherst, Wisconsin: Amherst Press, 1963).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Madeleine Pelner Cosman, 1981, Medieval Holidays And Festivals, A Calendar Of Celebrations, (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Mahmoud
Zibawi, The Icon, Its Meaning and History, (Collegeville, Minnesota:
The Liturgical Press, 1993, Editoriale Jaca Book s.p.a., Milan).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Marcell Restle, Byzantine Wall Painting In Asia Minor, (Plates II), 1967. </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Margaret
E. Martignoni, Dr. Louis Shores, Harry R. Snowden, Jr., & Ruth
Weeden Stewart, (Editors), Harvest of Holidays, (New York: The
Crowell-Collier Publishing Company, 1962).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Margaret
E. Tabor, The Saints In Art, With Their Attributes And Symbols
Alphabetically Arranged, (New York: Frederick A. Stokes Company).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Margaret
M. Manion, and Vera F. Vines, 1984, Medieval and Renaissance
Illuminated Manuscripts, In Australian Collections, (New York, and
London. England: Thames & Hudson, Melbourne).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Origen Against Celsus:</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0416.htm" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0416.htm</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Justin Martyr:</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0126.htm" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0126.htm</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0127.htm" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0127.htm</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Clement of Alexandria:</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0210.htm" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0210.htm</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Gregory of Nyssa, see last paragraph:</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2910.htm" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2910.htm</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Octavius (Minucius Felix)</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0410.htm" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0410.htm</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Tertullian, An Answer To the Jews</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0308.htm" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0308.htm</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">To Autolycus (Theophilus of Antioch)</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02041.htm" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02041.htm</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Council of Constantinople AD 553: Origen's version of pre-existence rejected in part:</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3812.htm" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3812.htm</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">To name a few for, see also my video series on You Tube.</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=JustinMartyrJr&p=r" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos...</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">End Notes: </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">1-
A. S. Garretson, Primitive Christianity And Early Criticism, (Boston:
Sherman, French & Company, 1912); R. Joseph Hoffmann, (translator),
Celsus On The True Doctrine, A Discourse Against the early Christians,
(Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1987); Robert Louis Wilken, The
Christians As The Romans Saw Them, (Yale Un. Press; New Haven &
London, 1984); Stephen Benko, Pagan Rome And The Early Christians,
(Indiana: Indiana University Press, 1984); W. H. C. Frend, Martyrdom
& Persecution In The Early Church, (Garden City, New York: Anchor
Books Doubleday & Company, 1967); Daniel C. Peterson, Dr. and
Stephen David Ricks, Professors, Offenders For A Word {How Anti-Mormons
Play Word Games to Attack the Latter-day Saints},(Salt Lake City, Utah:
Aspen Books, 1992).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">2-
Darell Thorpe, Mormonism: Shadow or Reality in Historic Biblical
Christianity - Early anti-Christian writings Parallel Modern
anti-Mormons' Writings, (Salt Lake City, Utah: On line Kindle Edition,
2011).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">3- Darell Thorpe,
Early Christian Answers to Primitive Critics, How Their Responses
Answer Modern Issues, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Salt Lake Community
College, August 1996; College Research Paper for a Humanities Special
Studies Class; Instructor: John Fritz, Student: Darell Thorpe). Topix:
Justin Martyr Jr., Answers to Early Anti-Christians, answer modern
Anti-Mormon "Christians!" (May 28, 2008).
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/latter-day-saints/TA5R4BO83H9OD39T8#c7
</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">4- Some of these
doctrines that eventually became legends in later centuries, in
different areas of Christianity are these: 1. The Pre-existence, it was
legendized into stories about water spirits, underworld demons, cave
trolls, creatures of the forest, streams, lakes & rivers. Goblins,
ghouls, & fairies. 2. Early Christian mysteries eventually were
fraternalized in later freemasonry. 3. Christ’s world wide treks became
legendized into Santa Claus’ annual frosty world flights. 4. Early
Christian white garments in their mysteries, eventually became
Whitesunday traditions, to become new clothing during Easter. 5. Eternal
marriage eventually became later hand clasping rings, the circle a
symbol of eternal love. The priests often saying: “What God has jointed
together, [with the groom holding the bride by the right hand], let no
one divide asunder.” 6. Christ’s descent into hell was later turned
into legends too, though also preserved in creeds, art works,
liturgical & mass dramas. Mystery & moral plays, &
iconography of the Anastasis.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">5-
Elizabeth Hough Sechrist & Janette Woolsey, Its Time For EASTER,
(Philadelphia: Macrae Smith Co., 1961), 21, & 24-5. The Nicene &
Post-Nicene Fathers, 5:519-520, & 524, Gregory of Nyssa: Dogmatic
Treatises, (reprint June 1972, by WM. B. Eerdmans). Marion P. Ireland
wrote that "White was the robe for newly baptized Christians in the
primitive church,” (Textile Art in the Church, by Marion P. Ireland,
1966, 67, & 1971, Pub. Abingdon Press., Nashville & N.Y., p.
73). Iconography of Christian Art, by Gertrud Schiller, Vol.1, trans.,
by Janet Seligman, 1966 & 77, New York Graphic Soc. Greenwhich,
Conn., #364., dated c.1170 Hortus Deliciarum. Brigham Young Un. Studies
Vol.22, Winter 1982 #1, pp.31-45, Clothed Upon: A Unique Aspect of
Christian Antiquity, by Blake Ostler. Also, Heaven: A History, pp.137,
140-1, pl.26. The Golden Age of English Manuscript Painting (1200-1500)
by Richard Marks & Nigel Morgan 1981, pp.60-1, pl.11. L' Art Roman
En Espagne by Marcel Durliat 1962, fig.219; Medieval French Miniatures
by Jean Porcher #27; Anglo-Saxon Art by David M. Wilson pp.186-7
fig.233; Monuments of Romanesque Art, Swarzenski, op. cit., pl.20
fig.45, pl.173, fig.380-1, pl.209. fig.491; Romanesque Sculpture, p.39,
fig.18; The Icon, Weitzmann, pp.26-7, 30-1. One of the traditions that
preserved in part the use of baptismal garments, in later centuries was
the festival known as "Whitsuntide." The Christian pentecost festivals
were also called "...Whitsuntide, so called because the catechumens
who had received the rite of Baptism on the previous day were clothed
in white while attending Mass during Pentecost. Hence Whit Sunday is
really a corruption of "White Sunday." (Manners, Customs, &
Observances, (Their Origin & Signification), by Leopold Wagner,
Pub. Scripta Manent, Lon. William Heinemann, 1894, republished by Gale
Research Co., Bk. Tower, Detroit, 1968, p.212-3).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
"THE CUSTOM of wearing new clothes at Easter probably dates back to
the time when the New Year started in March and new clothes were worn
to signify a new beginning. Some people trace it to the early Church
era when white robes were conferred on the recently baptized. According
to this theory, the regular members of the Church wore new attire in
memory of their own earlier baptisms.</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
The putting on of new garments was soon followed by superstitions
about the custom. One of the more widely known rhymes is as follows:</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> At Easter let your clothes be new,</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> Or else be sure you will it rue.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">An American belief is that good luck can be ensured for the year by wearing three new things on Easter Day...</span><span style="font-weight: bold;">.
The baptism of converts was preformed at Pentecost, and it still is
second only to Easter Eve as a popular time for baptism. The white robes
worn by the candidates for baptism prompted the English to call
Pentecost "Whitsunday" (white Sunday). This remains the common name of
the observance in Anglican churches. Today in the Roman and Anglican
Churches the color of the liturgical vestments is red, symbolizing the
tongues of fire in which the Holy Spirit appeared." (CELEBRATIONS (The
Complete Book of American Holidays), by Robert J. Myers, with The
Editors of Hallmark Cards, Doubleday & Co., Garden City, N.Y., 1972,
pp.108 & 156-7).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
"The joyful custom of wearing new clothes on Easter was kept by the
early Christians. Easter Week was once called "White Week" or "Week of
New Garments." Easter was a popular time for baptisms. People who were
baptized wore new white clothes as a sign of their new life.</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;">There
were other reasons for new clothes. People wanted to be as beautiful
as the earth with her fresh leaves and flowers. Also, a common
superstition said that anyone who wore old clothes would have bad luck:</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> At Easter let your clothes be new</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> Or else be sure you will it rue!</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
People who were too poor to buy new clothes wore a new ribbon,
scarf, tie, or even new shoelaces...." (A Holiday Book, Easter, by
Lillie Patterson, 1966, pp.21-22).</span><span style="font-weight: bold;">
"In the days of the early Christians, Easter was the time when new
members of the church were baptized. Afterward they put on new white
clothes as a sign of their joy. Now everyone likes to wear something new
on Easter Sunday." (A Crowell Holiday Book, Easter, by Aileen Fisher,
1968, Pub. Thomas Y. Crowell Co., N.Y., pages not numbered).</span><span style="font-weight: bold;">
"Whitsunday. In Christian ritual, English name for the feast of
Pentecost, ranking in importance with Christmas and Easter. Whitsunday
commemorates the descent of the Holy Spirit on the Apostles and
disciples, the founding of the Church, the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and
the mission to bring the Christian faith to all people throughout the
world. The name Pentecost comes from the Greek word for 50 and refers
to the 50 days after the Jewish Passover, which the ancient Jews
celebrated as Shavuoth, a festival of thanksgiving for the year's
harvest (Exodus 23:16).... The Early Church adopted the Greek name from
the Jewish feast. When the feast is called Whitsunday, as in The Book
of Common Prayer, it refers to the custom in Northern European
countries of conferring baptism during the time. The candidates for
baptism were dressed in white, thus White-Sunday, or Whitsunday. Since
it was too cold in many Northern European countries to baptize during
the great Easter vigil, many of the customs were transferred to
Pentecost." (The Facts On File Encyclopedia Of World Mythology And
Legend, by Anthony S. Mercatante, 1988, Facts On File, N.Y., Oxford,
p.673.)</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> "Whitsunday: The
English word "Whitsunday" (White Sunday) originated in the custom of
newly baptized persons presenting themselves for service all dressed in
white. Whitsunday derives its meaning and associations from the Jewish
feast of Pentecost. Originally it lasted seven days but was limited,
in 1094, to three days; Tuesday was abolished in 1711, and, by order of
Pope Pius X in 1911, Monday was excepted as a day of holy obligation.
Nevertheless, most European countries still observe the Monday
following Whitsunday as a legal holiday...." (Concise Dictionary of
Holidays, Raymond Jahn, Pub. by Philosophical Library, N.Y., 1958,
p.100).</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight: bold;"> "Whit Sunday
... In the Christian Church it commemorates the descent of the Holy
Spirit. The name means `white Sunday', thought to be an allusion to the
white baptismal garments once worn on this day...." (A Dictionary of
Days, by Leslie Dunkling, Pub. Facts On File Pub., N.Y., N.Y., Oxford,
England, p.131).</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight: bold;">
"The British call Pentecost Whitsunday. The reason for this was that
new Christians were often baptized during Pentecost. They wore white
robes during the ceremony, giving the holiday the name White Sunday. In
time, this became shortened to Whitsunday. All Christian churches
celebrate Holy Communion and Confirmation on this occasion." (Easter And
Other Spring Holidays, by Gilda Berger, Pub. by Franklin Watts, N.Y.,
Lon., Toronto, Sydney 1983, A First Book, p.38; Biblical Myths &
Mysteries, by Gilbert Thurlow, Pub. by Octopus Books, 1974, London,
p.64).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> Whitsun, is
special in England, for at the times of baptism “the candidates always
wore white robes. Candidate means ‘robed in white.’” Peter Watkins
& Erica Hughes, 1981, Here's the Year, (Great Britain: Camelot
Press, Southhampton; New York; Julia MacRae Books, 1981), p. 90.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
The modern "...ceremony of infant baptism, as practiced in the
great church of the world." [Is described by J.M. Sjodahl], "The priest
who performs it is directed to wear a white surplice, & two
"stoles," or regalia; first one violet colored, to denote the
sinfulness of the candidate, & then, after the evil spirit has been
driven out, a white one, the symbol of purity & innocence. After
the officiating clergyman had learned the name from the godfather, he
gently breathes three times upon the child, to drive away the devil,
and says: "Depart from him, thou unclean spirit, & give place to
the Holy Ghost the Paraclete." Then he makes the sign of the cross on
the forehead & the breast, & says a prayer. Next he lays his
hands on the head of the infant, to signify that he takes possession in
the name of the Lord, & utters another prayer...." Later during
this ceremony, The clergyman "...puts a little spittle on his thumb
& touches the ears & nostrils of the child, saying: "Epheta,
that is to say, Be opened;" &, "For a sweet savor." Again the devil
is commanded to be gone. The ceremony of the spittle is regarded as
"deeply significative." Man is, we are told, in his natural state,
spiritually deaf & dumb. Hence the ceremony of opening the ears
& nostrils to "signify the necessity of having the senses of the
soul open to the truth & grace of God."</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
"Next a promise is taken in behalf of the infant that it will
renounce Satan, & all his works, whereupon it is anointed with oil
upon the breast & between the shoulders, in the form of a cross.
(Here the violet regalia are changed for the white.) The infant is now
asked whether it believes in the Trinity, & the sponsor says, Yes.
It is then asked whether it will be baptized, & the sponsor again
says. Yes. Then water is poured 3 times upon its head, in the form of a
cross,..." [In the name of the Father, Son & Holy Ghost].
"...After the water the infant is anointed on the head with chrism
consisting of oil & balsam. A white linen cloth is also placed on
its head, a reminder of the white garment in which the Christians in
ancient days were clothed after baptism...." (The Reign of Antichrist
(Or The Great "Falling Away") by J.M. Sjodahl, 1913, pp.36-45, citing
here from pages 41-44).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">6-
Darell Thorpe, Holy & Protective Garments in Historic
Christianity: Symbols of Deification, Resurrection, Clothed in
Righteousness (Salt lake City, Utah: Kindle Edition - Sep 30, 2011, on
line). The Ante-Nicene Fathers = (TANF) 2: p.49-50, 54, 91-3, 104-5,
174, 198-200, 203-6, 209-11, 213, 215-219, 231, here Clement of Alex.,
mentions being anointed & clothed in a garment, symbolic of Christ.
He also made reference to "...the robe of immortality,..." See also
p.234, 253-56, 265-6, 271, 302-3, 312-13, 461-2, etc. Monuments of
Romanesque Art, Hanns Swarzenski, 1954 & 1967, Un. of Chicago
Press, pl. 20, fig.45, pl.173, fig. 380, & 381, pl.173; Coptic
Textiles, Ludmila Kybalova, Pub. by Paul Hamlyn LTD., 1967, pages 68-9,
fig. 15 & 16, & p.34; Heaven: A History, by Colleen McDannell
& Bernhard Lang, Pub. by Yale Un. Press, 1988, p.137, 140-1, &
pl.26; Manners, Customs, & Observances, (Their Origin &
Signification), by Leopold Wagner, Pub. Scripta Manent, Lon. William
Heinemann, 1894, republished by Gale Research Co., Bk. Tower, Detroit,
1968, pp.212-3. Brigham Young Un. Studies Vol.22, Winter 1982 #1,
p.31-45, Clothed Upon: A Unique Aspect of Christian Antiquity, by Blake
Ostler. </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">7- Allen H.
Richardson, M. Ed., David E. Richardson, Ph. D., and Anthony E.
Bentley, M. Sc.; 1000 Evidences For the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-Day Saints, Volume 1, The </span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Everlasting
Gospel, The First 500 Evidences, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Hawkes, 1994).
Daniel C. Peterson, Dr. and Stephen David Ricks, Professor: Offenders
For A Word {How Anti-Mormons Play Word Games to Attack the Latter-day
Saints}, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Aspen Books, 1992). Comparing LDS
Beliefs With 1st Century Christianity, The Ensign, March 1988, p. 7-11,
(Salt Lake City, Utah: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints). J. Eugene Seaich: Ancient Texts and Mormonism, (Murray, Utah:
Sounds of Zion, 1983). The Heavenly Council, Mysteries and Sacred
Ordinances, (unpublished research paper). Mormonism, The Dead Sea
Scrolls & The Nag Hammadi Texts, (Murray, Utah: Sounds of Zion,
1980). James L . Barker, Apostasy From The Divine Church, (Salt Lake
City, Utah: Deseret News Press, 1960). Barker, The Divine Church, Down
through Change, Apostasy therefrom, and Restoration, (Salt Lake City,
Utah: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The Council of
The Twelve Apostles, 1952, CR David O. McKay 1951), three volumes:
1952, 1953, 1954. Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel Through the Ages, (Salt
Lake City, Utah: Stevens & Wallis, 1945). Rev. Alexander Hislop,
The Two Babylons (or The Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of
Nimrod and His Wife), (England: A & C Black, LTD., 1916; American
editions, Neptune, New Jersey: Loizeaux Brothers, 1943 and 1956); T.
Edgar Lyon, Apostasy to Restoration, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Deseret
Book Company, 1960; Course of Study for the Melchizedek Priesthood
Quorums of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, CR 1960,
David O. McKay). The Reign of Antichrist Or The Great "Falling Away" by
J.M. Sjodahl, 1913. </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">8-
The early anti-Christian charge that the early Christians' god, or
Jesus Christ, neglected other nations, sent no prophets to others, or
didn't extend his Kingdom beyond the paths of the sun, or was
neglectful of those before the Christian era can be found in the
following: </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Celsus:
"Certainly, you Christians will not say that Christ, when He found
that He could not induce the inhabitants on the surface of the earth to
believe in His doctrines, descended to the infernal regions, in order
that He might persuade those that dwelt there."</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Celsus also goes on to accuse the early Christian of "inventing absurd apologies by which you are ridiculously deceived".</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Celsus
may have also noted that the pagan nations had correlative stories,
and so he may have charged that the Christians' version was borrowed.
Origen wrote in response to Celsus, that like it or not, Christ did
descend to preach unto the spirits in hades.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">(Sources:
John P. Lundy, Monumental Christianity, pp.73-4; The Ante-Nicene
Fathers, Vol.4, pp.419-20, & 448; Hoffmann, Celsus On The True
Doctrine, p.65; Nibley, The World And The Prophets, pp.18-19; Nibley,
Mormonism and Early Christianity, note 107, Origen Against Celsus II,
43, in PG 11:864-65. Hercules return from Hades may have been
considered to be similar to Christ's descent & ascension up out of
Hades. Concerning this, Lundy asked this question: "Can all this be a
type of what is so often grouped together on the Christian monuments,
Christ, after his resurrection, subjugating the powers of darkness,
and doing His work of human restoration in founding His Church by
Apostolic commission to preach the Gospel to all nations, and thus
undoing the effects of the first human transgression?" (Lundy,
Monumental Christianity, pp. 399, see also p. 98).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">In
another translation of Celsus: "Perhaps you Christians will say that
having failed to convince men on earth of his divinity, he descended
into hell to convince them there. In all of these beliefs you have been
deceived; yet you persist doggedly to seek justification for the
absurdities you have made doctrines." (Hoffmann, Celsus On The True
Doctrine, p.65).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Origen
responded to Celsus: "Whether he like it or not, we assert that not
only while Jesus was in the body did He win over not a few persons
only, but so great a number that a conspiracy was formed against Him on
account of the multitude of His followers: but also, that when He
became a soul, without the covering of the body, He dwelt among the
disembodied spirits, converting such of them to Himself as were
willing, or those whom He saw for reasons known to Himself, to be
fitted for salvation." (Lundy, Monumental Christianity, p. 266, see
note 1, Contra Cel., II. c. 43, Harvey's Creeds, I. p. 337).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Even
the late 19th century anti-Christian writer, like Celsus, also notes
this doctrine was taught and depicted in art works by the early
Christians. Hence, T. W. Doane, notes: "Ancient Christian works of art
represent his [Christs] descent into hell." (T. W. Doane, Bible Myths,
and their Parallels In Other Religions, being a comparison of the Old
and New Testament Myths and Miracles with Those of Heathen Nations of
Antiquity, Considering also Their Origins and Meaning, 1882, 7th
edition 1910, See chapter 22 pp. 211-214. Doane wrote that: "The
doctrine of Christ Jesus' descent into Hell is emphatically part of the
Christian beliefs, although not alluded by Christian divines
excepting when unavoidable." Doane goes on to cite from St.
Chrysostom, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, and others. (Bible Myths,
pp. 211-14; Dean Plumptre's The Spirits in Prison: Studies on the Life
after Death, p. 85, S.; see also: The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. 4,
pp. 419-20, & 448, Origen Against Celsus, Book 2, Chapter XLIII;
Hoffmann, Celsus On The True Doctrine, p.65. Note 4: Jameson's History
of Our Lord in Art, vol. 2, pp. 354-5).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Certainly
the descent would answer another issue brought up by other critics
about the early Christians' God being neglectful of others in
pre-Christian times; for if they got to hear the gospel in the spirit
world, they wouldn't have been neglected.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">The
early anti-Christian Porphyry, 2nd half of the 3rd cent. A.D., asked:
If Christ is the way the truth and the life, and no ones comes to the
Father but through Him, (John 14:6), what happened to the innumerable
souls before the time of Christ, why did he hide himself for so many
ages? Julian the Apostate asked why God had sent prophets to the Jews
only, but no prophets & oil of anointing to other nations? Did God
neglect us? The answer to these polemical questions, as given by some
of the early Christian Fathers was that the gospel had been preached
throughout the world and in the realms of the dead for prophets,
angels and Christ had gone forth everywhere to spread the word. </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">(Sources:
Robert L. Wilken, The Christians As The Romans Saw Them, (New Haven
and London: Yale University Press, 1984), pp. 162-3, & pp.94-196;
After Jesus, by Reader's Digest, pp.199-200; The Ante-Nicene Fathers,
4: pp.407, 419-20, 422, 444, 447-8, 454, 458, 464, 468, 528, 557, 609,
617, 634, 641, & 660, Origen Against Celsus. Joseph Wilson Trigg,
Origen, The Bible & Philosophy in the Third-century Church,
(Atlanta: John Knox Press, 1983), pp. 222-243; John P Lundy, Monumental
Christianity, Or the Art and Symbolism of the Primitive Church, (New
York: J W Bouton, Broadway, 1875, 2nd Edition, 1882), pp. 73-4; Joseph
R. Hoffmann, Celsus On The True Doctrine, (Oxford Un. Press, 1987),
p.65; Dr. Huge W. Nibley, The World And The Prophets, (Salt Lake City
and Provo, Utah: Deseret Book and Foundation For Ancient Research and
Mormon Studies, 1987), volume 3 in The Collected Works of Huge Nibley,
p.18-19).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Justin Martyr,
[A.D. 110-165], wrote a polemical work that responded to some of the
early anti-Christian Jews. He accused some of them having removed from
some of the copies of the sayings of Jeremiah a prophecy that
predicted Christ's descent. "The Lord God remembered His dead people
of Israel who lay in the graves; and He descended to preach to them
His own salvation." Lundy gives another translation of this prediction
as it was recorded by Irenaeus: "`And the Lord remembered His dead
saints (Israel) who slept in the land of sepulture; and He went down
to preach His salvation to them, and to rescue and save them.'" </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">(Sources:
The Ante-Nicene Fathers = (TANF), (Grand Rapids, Michigan: W. M. B.
Eerdmans Publishing Company, T & T Clark Edinburgh, reprinted, Oct.
1989), vol., 1: pp. 234-5, chapter LXXII, Justin Martyr, Dialogue
With Trypho, see note I on p. 235, This is wanting in our Scriptures:
it is cited by Iren., III, 20, under the name of Isaiah, and in iv. 22
under that of Jeremiah. See also: Alfred Firmin Loisy, The Birth of
the Christian Religion and The Origins of the New Testament, (La
Naissance du Christianisme Les Origines du Nouveau Testament),
translated from French by L. P. Jacks, see pp. 204, & 270-1; James
L. Barker, Apostasy From The Divine Church, (Salt Lake City, Utah:
Deseret News Press, Kate Montgomery Barker, 1960), p. 63. Barker makes
reference to Irenaeus, Against Heresies, IV, 27, 2, 12; Justin
Martyrs, Dialogue with Trypho, LXXII, 4; The Shepherd of Hermas, Sim.
IX. xvi, 5. See also: Ferguson, Encyclopedia Of Early Christianity,
pp. 411-12; John P. Lundy, Monumental Christianity, Or the Art and
Symbolism of the Primitive Church, (New York: J W Bouton, Broadway,
1875, 2nd Edition, 1882), pp. 264).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">145-220,
Tertullian wrote that: "Every spirit is possessed of wings. This is a
common property of both angels and demons. So they are everywhere in a
single moment; the whole world is as one place to them" (</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">The Ante-Nicene Fathers</span><span style="font-weight: bold;">,
3:36, Tertullian, Apology, chapter xxii; see also p.179; The Soul's
Testimony, chapter vi). If good angels & bad demons can go
everywhere, why couldn't our Lord, Jesus Christ, before his birth, as a
Spirit, & after his resurrection, go wherever he wished?</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">The Ante-Nicene Fathers, </span><span style="font-weight: bold;">3:157-8;
4:175-6, & 179; Russell, Satan (The Early Christian Tradition),
118-122; Bainton, Behold the Christ, p.170, fig. 194. Christ rules over
the whole world, "he is the governor among the nations," & also the
universe. (Col.1:10-22; & Psa.22:25-28).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">God not neglectful of pre-Christian time people:</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">In
the: RECOGNITIONS OF CLEMENT, [1ST--4TH CENTURIES A.D.?] Clement was
concerned about what happened to those who lived in the times before
Christ's birth, how could they be saved? Peter's answer is interesting
to consider. In one translation, Clement asks Peter: "If those shall
enjoy the kingdom of Christ, whom His coming shall find righteous, shall
then those be wholly deprived of the kingdom who have died before His
coming?" Then Peter says: "You compel me, O Clement, to touch upon
things that are unspeakable. But so far as it is allowed to declare
them, I shall not shrink from doing so. Know then that Christ, who was
from the beginning, and always, was ever present with the pious, though
secretly, through all their generations; especially with those who
waited for Him, to whom He frequently appeared. But the time was not yet
that there should be a resurrection of the bodies that were
dissolved... In like manner [as what happened to Enoch, etc., Gen.5:24,]
others were dealt with, who pleased His will, that, being translated
to Paradise, they should be kept for the kingdom. But as to those who
have not been able to completely fulfil the rule of righteousness, but
have had some remnants of evil in their flesh, their bodies are indeed
dissolved, but their souls are kept in good and</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;">blessed
abodes, that at the resurrection of the dead, when they shall recover
their own bodies, purified even by the dissolution, they may obtain an
eternal inheritance in proportion to their good deeds. And therefore
blessed are all those who shall attain to the kingdom of Christ; for not
only shall they escape the pains of hell, but shall also remain
incorruptible, and shall be the first to see God the Father, and shall
obtain the rank of honour among the first in the presence of God.” <span style="font-style: italic;">The Ante-Nicene Fathers</span>,
Vol.8, pp.74, & 91, Recognitions of Clement, Bk.1, see
chapts.51-52, see also: The World And The Prophets, (The Col. Works, of
Huge Nibley, Vol.3), pp.168, note 9, p.299, & 311, J.-P. Migne,
Patrologiae Cursus Completus. Series Graeca (Paris: 1857-1866), 1:1236.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">The
fairness of God & the heavens is to also give those who were once
disobedient, (New Testament, KJV, 1 Peter 3:15-22; 4:5-6), or who
didn’t even know about God & his Son, Jesus Christ, many
opportunities to hear the gospel & freely accept it, or reject it.
Those who heard it, and knew of it, but were disobedient, will get many
opportunities to hear it again & either live it or continue on
down their paths of sins & bad habits. These are according to the
ancient scriptures and the early Christian writings & art works,
that show Christ, prophets, apostles, angels & saints preaching the
gospel in hell, limbo, purgatory, the abyss, or underworld; then of
Christ harrowing hell; guiding captives of hell over to paradise; or
how Christ brings them to his Mother Mary, then brings the liberated
souls to God the Father who have been set free from hell’s dungeons,
the pit, or underworld spirit prison house; despite a personified hell
& the Devil & his demons attempts to stop them from freeing
their captives. Heavenly missionary forces, including John the Baptist,
are depicted going down and preaching the gospel to the souls held
captive, the doors of hades, limbo, purgatory or hell are kicked down
by Christ. Christ & his angels, including Michael, bind the devil
in irons as they resurrect & lift souls up out of their graves, or
out of the opened pit or cavern of the underworld, to set them free
from death & hell & the demonic powers in those after life
realms. Thousands of art works all over historic Christianity, in the
different sects & branches of Christianity, show different versions
of this post-crucifixion event. Iconography of the Anastasis, or
resurrection often shows different types of hand & wrist grasping
done between Christ &Adam & Eve, the first to be resurrected
out of their graves, which are depicted as an open pit in the
underworld, with Christ standing on the broken down doors, often times
fallen on a personified hades, hell or underworld demon, or the devil
himself; symbolic of Christ’s victory over death & hell. The
victory of Christ over death & the devil, where he tramples them,
or puts them under his feet, or make them his foot stool, is symbolic
of his victory. His victory march throughout the world, as he goes
throughout all nations, places & peoples, is underway, during his
post-resurrection victory march, with the cross-banner-weapon in his
hands. Thus, Christ not only went to the realms of the dead, as a
glorious spirit, after the crucifixion; he also went throughout the
world, during his post-resurrection world wide treks. Art works of
Masses for the Dead, Liturgical dramas, moral & mystery plays also
depict different aspects of this event. The point being that even the
once wicked souls held captive by the devil & his fallen angels,
can eventually repent, upon hearing Christ calling to them &
preaching to them; and be resurrected & set free as Christ’s
glorious light, burst forth into the darkness of the underworld to set
the repentant free. They come forth as “the grateful dead,” singing
praises to God & Christ who has raised them up, or lifted them up,
(by different types of hand & wrist grips), during the Anastasis,
resurrection or Easter dramas, & harrowing. The descent into hell,
limbo, hades, purgatory is one of the 12 passions, or passions showing
Christ’s mercy and love for the whole world, & after life realms.
Christ often is depicted in a mandorla of light & glory as he frees
spirits in the spirit prison, after preaching the gospel to them, and
of them accepting his message and repenting. Christ said that the "dead
shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear him shall
live." (John 5:25-29). Alan Richardson and John Bowden, (Editors),
Westminster Dictionary of Christian Theology, (Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania: The Westminster Press, CR SCM Press Ltd 1983, first
Published in Great Britain, 1983, entitled: A New Dictionary of
Christian Theology). See the article entitled: The Descent into Hell.
by A. T. Hanson. See also: Albert E. Bailey, The Gospel In Art,
(Boston & Chicago: Pilgrim Press, 1916); Alice K. Turner, 1993, The
History of Hell, (New York, San Diego, U.S.A.; London, England:
Harcourt Brace & Company); Ariel L. Crowley, BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD,
(Boise Idaho: Prepared for Electronic Media by Stanley D. Barker. See
also: Chandler Rathfon Post, A History of Spanish Painting,
(Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 1930—1958). (New
York: Kraus reprint Company, 1970's); Colleen McDannell and Bernhard
Lang, Heaven: A History, (New Haven and London: Yale University Press,
1988); Geoffrey R. King, The Forty Days, (Grand Rapids, Michigan: W.M.
B. Eerdmans, 1949); Hanns Swarzenski, Monuments Of Romanesque Art, The
Art of Church Treasures in North-Western Europe, (The University of
Chicago Press, 1954 and 2nd, Edition, 1967); Henry Ansgar Kelly, The
Devil at baptism: Ritual, Theology, and Drama, (Ithaca and London:
Cornell University Press, 1985); Ignazio Mancini, O.F.M., (Historical
Survey), Archaeological Discoveries, Relative to the
Judaeo-Christians, (Jerusalem: Studium Biblicum Franciscanum,
Collection minor #10, Franciscan Printing Press, 1970); Jacobus de
Voragine, The Golden Legend, (Readings on the Saints), (Princeton, New
Jersey: Princeton University Press, Vol. 2, 1993); The Golden Legend,
Jacobus de Voragine, translated and adapted from the Latin by Granger
Ryan and Helmut Ripperger, 1941, New York: Arno Press of New York
Times, 1969); Jeffrey Burton Russell, Satan, The Early Christian
Tradition, (Ithaca, London: Cornell University Press, 1981); Russell,
Lucifer, The Devil In the Middle Age, (Ithaca, London: Cornell
University Press, 1984); Russell, The Prince of Darkness, Radical Evil
and the Power of Good in History, (Ithaca, New York: Cornell University
Press, 1988). Jeffrey Ruda, Fra Filippo, Life And Work, (North
American: Harry N. Abrams, Phaidon Press, 1993); John P. Lundy,
Monumental Christianity, Or the Art and Symbolism of the Primitive
Church, (New York: J. W. Bouton, 1875 & 1882); John Pope-Hennessy,
Fra Angelico, (London, England: Phaidon Press, 1952, CR 1974, Phaidon
Press, LTD. And in Ithaca, New York: Cornell University Press, 1974);
Italian Renaissance Sculpture, (London, England: Phaidon Press, 1958);
Kurt Weitzmann, (Essays), Studies In The Arts At Sinai, (New Jersey:
Princeton University Press, 1982); Weitzmann, Byzantine Book
Illumination & Ivories, (London: Variorum Reprints, 1980);
Weitzmann, The Miniatures Of The Sacra Parallela (Parisinus Graecus
923), (Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press, 1979);
Illustrations In Roll & Codex, A Study of The Origin & Method
of Text Illustration, (Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University
Press, 1947); Weitzmann, (Editor, Herbert L. Kessler), Studies In
Classical & Byzantine Manuscript Illumination, (Chicago, U.S.A.,
and London, England: The University of Chicago Press, 1971); Weitzmann,
(Editor), Age Of Spirituality, 1979; The Icon, (New York: Arnoldori
Editore, & Alfred A. Knopf., Inc. 1982); Weitzmann's Studies In
Classical And Byzantine Manuscript Illumination, edited by Herbert L.
Kessler, (Chicago; London: University of Chicago Press, 1971);
Weitzmann, & others, Arnoldori Editor, The Icon, (New York: Alfred
A. Knopf, 1982); Illuminated Greek Manuscripts from American
Collections, An Exhibition in Honor of Kurt Weitzmann, Edited by Gary
Vikan, (The Art Museum, Princeton University Press, 1973, [Dates of
exhibition April 14--May 20, 1973]. Martha Himmelfarb, Tours Of Hell, An
Apocalyptic Form in Jewish and Christian Literature, (Philadelphia:
University of Pennsylvania Press, 1983). O.M. Dalton, Byzantine &
Archaeology, (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1911, and New York: Dover
Publishing, Inc., 1961); Dalton, East Christian Art, A Survey of the
Monuments, (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1925); Raymond Koechlin, Les
Ivoires Gothiques Francais, (Planches), (Paris: Reimpression, F. De
Nobele, 1968); Walter Oakshott, Classical Inspiration In Medieval Art,
(New York, New York: Frederick A. Praeger Inc., 1959); William Barclay,
The Apostles' Creed For Everyman, (New York and Evanston: Harper and
Row, 1967); William Hood, Fra Angelico at San Marco, (New Haven &
London: Yale University Press, 1993). Hallenfahrt Christis, in Richard
Paul Wulker, Bibliothek der Angelsachsischen Poesie, (Leipzig: Wigands,
1897), three volumes. Himmel Hölle Fegefeuer, Das Jenseits im
Mittelalter, 1994, Schweizerisches Landesmuseum, Zurich, Wilhelm Fink
Verlag, Munchen. See also: Early Christian writer, Clement of
Alexandria, he wrote that all people would be given a chance to hear the
gospel around the world, and in what ever realm or place that they
were at. Even the apostles, like Christ, had preached the gospel in
hades too. Clement says that he thinks that it has been demonstrated
that the God being good, and the Lord being powerful, would "save with a
righteousness and equality which extend to all that turn to Him,
whether here or elsewhere." He also says that it is not only here alone
that the active power of God is beforehand, but it is also everywhere.
And it is always at work. Citing from the Preaching of Peter, Clement
says that the Lord said to the disciples after the resurrection, "I
have chosen you twelve disciples, judging you worthy of men," whom the
Lord wished to be apostles, having judged them faithful, sending them
into the world to the men on the earth, that they may know that there
is one God, showing clearly what would take place by the faith of
Christ; that they who heard and believed should be saved; and that
those who believed not, after having heard, should bear witness, not
having the excuse to allege, We have not heard." <span style="font-style: italic;">The Ante-Nicene Fathers</span>,
2:490-2, Miscellanies, Book 6, chapter 6. Christ was depicted as the
Pantocrator, in a late 8th century ivory panel. He holds a book in his
hand, perhaps it is symbolic of the gospel message which was for the
whole world. He tramples under his feet a lion and serpent symbolic of
the devil. Christ holds a cross in his right hand, it seems that Christ
was intended here to appear to be on the move. Or in the act of taking
the gospel and the message of redemption into those areas which He is
the great Pantocrator over. The artist may have also intended to depict
Christ's victory over satan who is trampled under Christ's feet as the
march goes on. Art of the Christian World, A.D. 200-1500 (A Handbook of
Styles and Forms) by Christe, Velmans, Losowska and Recht, 1982, p.
85. fig. 166, "Christ Pantocrator, ivory panel, late 8th c., Mus.
Royaux d'Art et d'Histoire, Brussels".<br /><br />In a mosaic of "THE
MEDIEVAL CHRIST...." is a depiction of Christ sitting on what could be
His throne. This work is found "...in the thirteenth-century church of
St. Tommaso in Formis, Rome..." Here Christ clasps the wrists of two
men whos' feet are in irons, one man is white, while the other man
seems to represent the darker skinned races. Thus, they also represent
the captives of the different races of the world. In clasping their
wrists, Christ "...draws into one and the same salvation the captives
of every race. It is a concept that could have great significance for
the church of the future, when developed and developing countries alike
have a mass of redundant and virtually captive people." But also this
art work could have preserved the idea that Christ would give to every
race of the human family a fair chance at salvation. The script around
this mosaic reads: "ET CAPTIVORVM + SIGNVM . ORDINIS . SANCTAE
TRINITATIS ." (The Oxford Illustrated History of Christianity, Edited
by John McMANNERS, Pub. Oxford Un. Press, Oxford N.Y., 1990, p.632). </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">9-</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: red; font-style: italic;">Extra-biblical text charge</span>
of anti-Mormon "Christians" who claim that Mormons can't be
Christians because they believe in "extra-biblical texts," (like the
Book of Mormon & other LDS Scriptures), is ironic! How so? Because
the critics often require a belief in the trinity, the <span style="font-style: italic;">Nicene Creed</span>
in order to qualify as being a Christian. The problem with this is
that the Nicene Creed is not found in the bible! Modern critics also
rejecting LDS restored version of deification, still want LDS to accept
the Nicene Creed which was argued out by early Christian fathers &
leaders during the Nicene Council of 325 AD. However, those who were
at this council also taught their own versions of deification, while
many admit that the formulas of the creed were not found in the
scriptures. So that's the irony of it all.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">"We
are well aware that the Bishops and writers of ancient times when
discussing the theology of the Father and the Son never used the word
homoousios." Here we see that they acknowledged the fact that earlier
Christians had not used such terms. Eusebius had attempted to assure the
Christians under him that things had been carefully examined and
worked out during the council. And that they had finally agreed, even
though there had been much discussion concerning and trouble concerning
"the use of certain expressions not found in the Scriptures.... Since
the divinely inspired Scriptures never use such terms as `out of
nothing,' or `that existed which at one time did not exist,' and such
like terms; for it did not seem proper (eulogon) to say and teach such
things,... never in times before have we thought it proper to use
these terms." (Dr. Huge W. Nibley, </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">The World And The Prophet</span><span style="font-weight: bold;">s,
47-51, & 301-2, citing from Patrologia Cursus Completus, Series
Graeca = PG, (Paris: J.-P. Migne, 1857-1866), 161 volumes, see
67:41-57, 64, 68, 72, & 76; PG, 26:684, 688-9, 760; J.-P. Migne,
Patrologiae Cursus Completus... Series Latina = PL, (Paris: 1844-1864),
221 volumes, 10:566-68. PL 10:566-68). </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">The
Rev. Dr. Charles Francis Potter notes how that the many new
discoveries of ancient documents is challenging the Christian world to
examine its present day doctrines, practices and rituals. “Few
believing Christians yet realize . . . how many important doctrines are
due to be changed radically, and how many others should eventually be
eliminated when the [Dead Sea] Scrolls are properly recognized and
evaluated in relation to the New Testament.” Among some of the
doctrines he says will have to go is “the doctrine of the Trinity,
which was never in the Bible anyway.” (The Rev. Dr. Charles Francis
Potter, The Lost Years of Jesus Revealed, From the Dead Sea Scrolls and
the Nag-Hammadi discoveries, (Greenwich, Conn.: A Fawcett Gold Medal
Book, Facett Publications, Inc., 1958, 1962, revised edition), pp.
15—16). </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">William G.
Rusch notes that: “Tertullian is actually the first to introduce the
Latin trinitas into Christian literature.” Further on, Rusch notes how
that years later, during the Council of Nicaea: “It is not clear what
the council intended to teach by the phrase “from the substance [ousia]
of the Father” and homoousios with the Father. Both were unscriptural
and employed with some reluctance. The later phrase was placed in the
creed by the emperor Constantine, probably with Hosius’s guidance.
Literally it means “of the same ousia” (substance).” (William G. Rusch,
The Trinitarian Controversy, (Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1980), pp.
10, 19—20).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: red; font-weight: bold;">Other sources of other issues:</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Some
of the early anti-Christians who rejected the early Christians’
versions of the pre-existence, or at least certain aspects of it, as
some critics might have accepted their own versions of it, as taught in
Jewish writings & paganism: Trypho the Jew said to Justin Martyr,
A.D. 100—165, that their [Trypho's] teachers had taught them that the
[early] Christians utter many blasphemies, seeking to persuade us that
Christ or “this crucified man was with Moses and Aaron, and spoke to
them... [And] that he became a man...” The Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 1:
p.213, Dialogue With Trypho, chapter 38. Thus, this early
anti-Christian rejected the concept that Christ pre-existed. John
1:1—5; 6:62—65; 8:56—58; 16:28—33; 17:4—5; 1 Peter 1:18—20; Hebrews
1:1—3; Pearl of Great Price, Abraham 3:24; The Book of Mormon, 3 Nephi
9:15—17; Ether 3; 2 Nephi 11:2—3; devil knew who Christ was Mark
3:11—12; Luke 4:33—35; The Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 1, p. 213. Jewish
documents make reference to the pre-existence. Angelo S. Rappoport,
Ancient Israel Myth and Legends, vol. 1, p. 7, 42—43, etc.; Bernard J.
Bamberger, 1952, Fallen Angels, pp. 109—10, etc.; DaRell D. Thorpe, The
Grand Pilgrimage: Footnoting In & “Out of the Best Books” [D&C
88:118], (Salt Lake City, Utah: Religious, Historical & Polemical
Studies, 1992), vol. 1, part 1, based on issues 1—4, revised,
April—August 1992, pp. 5—7. Dr. Huge W. Nibley, The Old Testament And
Related Studies, vol. 1, of The Collected Works of Huge Nibley, (Salt
Lake City & Provo, Utah: Deseret Book & Foundation For Ancient
Research and Mormon Studies = F.A.R.M.S., 1986). So they may not have
had too much of a problem with the idea of a pre-existence. But
rather, the Jews had a hard time accepting Christ as being the one God,
or another God. And that it was Jesus who had spoken to their
prophets. Furthermore, though Jewish writings have their own particular
versions of the war in heaven. Plus, how Satan and his angels fell
from heaven. Still, in spite of this, Trypho rejects the early
Christians’ version of the story, for he says that they "...assert that
angels sinned and revolted from God." Justin cites from Isaiah,
Zechariah, Job, Moses, & David to show how Jewish scriptures say
that the devil and his demons fell from heaven to become fallen
angels/demons. Plus, how the wicked angels sinned when they revolted
against God. (The Ante-Nicene Fathers, 1:238, Dialogue With Trypho,
chapter 79). Justin Martyr: "But Jesus is indeed he who appeared and
spoke to Moses, to Abraham and in a word, to all the other patriarchs,
to serve the will of his Father; it is he who came to be born a man by
the Virgin Mary, and he is one still." (Justin, Dialogue With Trypho,
CXIII, 4).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> A.D.,
115—168—181, Theophilus of Antioch, while responding to the early
anti-Christian, Autolycus, says this: In the pre-existence, Christ was
in a council in heaven with God the Father. The Ante-Nicene Fathers,
2:103, Theophilus to Autolycus, chapter 22. See also: New English
Bible, Wisdom of Solomon 8:19-20. David Winston, Anchor Bible Series,
The Wisdom of Solomon, (Garden City: Doubleday, 1982), p.26, 198; Van
Hale, Mormon Miscellaneous, note cards, Set 1, card #132, March 1985.
Angelo S. Rappoport, Ancient Israel Myth and Legends, vol. 1, p. 7,
42—43, etc.; Bernard J. Bamberger, 1952, Fallen Angels, pp. 109—10,
etc.; DaRell D. Thorpe, The Grand Pilgrimage: Footnoting In & “Out
of the Best Books” [D&C 88:118], (Salt Lake City, Utah: Religious,
Historical & Polemical Studies, 1992), vol. 1, part 1, based on
issues 1—4, revised, April—August 1992, pp. 5—7. Dr. Huge W. Nibley, The
Old Testament And Related Studies, vol. 1, of The Collected Works of
Huge Nibley, (Salt Lake City & Provo, Utah: Deseret Book &
Foundation For Ancient Research and Mormon Studies = F.A.R.M.S., 1986).
See also: Nibley, Enoch The Prophet, The Collected Works of Huge
Nibley, vol. 2, (1986); Job 38:4—8, 32:8; Numbers 16:22; 27:16; Isaiah
14:12—19; Ezekiel 28:14—19. A History of Christian Doctrine, by William
G. T. Shedd, D.D., Vol. II, p.3-5, (3rd Edition), 1883, N.Y., Pub.
Charles Scribner's Sons. </span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">
As we might note from the above comments, & others that will
follow, the doctrines & stories concerning the pre-existence were
interpreted in many different ways. It seems that each early Jewish
& early Christian sects developed their own particular
interpretations to the different stories. These different
interpretations were noted by the early anti-Christian writer, Celsus
[who wrote against the early Christians about 170-180 A.D.]. Celsus had
lumped the different Christian sects into a sweeping generalization.
And by so doing this, he went on to mock the Christians for their
beliefs in a war in heaven in which "two sons of God" had been locked
in combat with each other. Later, during the 3rd century A.D., the
early Christian writer, Origen, wrote 8 books that we know of, which
responded to Celsus. The Ante-Nicene Fathers, 4: 395-669, Origen
Against Celsus. In his response, Origen presents some of his own views
concerning the war in heaven, etc. He objected to how Celsus had used
Marcion's war in heaven story, in order to generalize what "the
Christians believed." However, Origen does not seem to object to the
idea that 2 brothers had fought against each other in a war in heaven.
For though he rejected to Celsus's use of the heretic Marcion's opinion
in this case. He does not argue against this element of the
pre-existence story. (Ibid., Vol.4, pp. 405, 526-7, 538-9, 544, 560,
591-607; Celsus On the True Doctrine, Translated by R. Joseph Hoffmann,
1987, Pub., Oxford Un. Press, p.105. See also: A History of Christian
Doctrine, Shedd, op. cit., pp.5-10.)</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">The
council of Constantinople in 553 A.D. And Origenists came under attack
for their views on the pre-existence, based on the teachings of
Origen. (The Nicene & Post-Nicene Fathers, Vol.XIV, pages 299-323.)
</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">One of the earliest
Christian writings claimed to have been possibly written by Clement of
Rome, [A.D. 30-100], reads: "Our one Lord Jesus Christ, who has saved
us, being first a spirit, was made flesh,..." (The Lost Books of the
Bible, p. 143, 2nd Clement, c.4:2).</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">The
council of heaven is mentioned by Theophilus of Antioch, [A.D.
115-168-181]. In response to an early anti-Christian named Autolycus.
The Word or Christ, is God the Father's Son. "For before anything came
into being He had Him as a counsellor, being His own mind & thought.
But when God wished to make all that He determined on, He begot this
Word, uttered, the first-born of all creation, not Himself being emptied
of the Word [Reason], but having begotten Reason, & always
conversing with His Reason. And hence the holy writings teach us, &
all the spirit-bearing [inspired] men, one of whom, John, says, "In the
beginning was the Word, & the Word was with God," showing that at
first God was alone, & the Word in Him...." (<span style="font-style: italic;">The Ante-Nicene Father</span>s, 2:103, c.22).</span><br />
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691764325284790865.post-78697160149825362552012-12-14T03:11:00.001-07:002013-05-17T00:55:46.705-06:00<span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: medium;">Movie Trailer for: </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: medium;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJdRqydEG6k"><i>Cosmic Agent</i></a></span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: medium;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJdRqydEG6k"><i><b> - Paranoid, Stranded in Time</b></i></a></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: medium;"><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJdRqydEG6k"><i>On A Strange World!</i></a> </b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: medium;"><b>(</b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: medium;"><b>1st Movie in the Series: Cosmic </b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: medium;"><b>Agents)<br />Coming soon, on line, about Spring 2013.</b></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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</div><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/VZeaJ1QoKlg?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><b><i><span style="background-color: yellow;">The Iron Triangle - The Carlyle Group Exposed</span></i></b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZeaJ1QoKlg&feature=player_detailpage#t=103s">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZeaJ1QoKlg&feature=player_detailpage#t=103s</a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">How <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lly55X5Jol0&feature=player_detailpage#t=4380s">politicians go in & out of corporations that they helped get the government contracts for</a>, & thus banked from the bills & laws they helped get signed into law, when they were politicians! Many <i>conflict of interest</i> cases. A must see: <i><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZeaJ1QoKlg&feature=player_detailpage#t=103s">The Iron Triangle</a></i>!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
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</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-war-on-drugs/"><span style="font-size: small;"><i><b><span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="blue" id="dtx-highlighting-item">The</span><span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="lime" id="dtx-highlighting-item"> War </span><span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="yellow" id="dtx-highlighting-item">On </span><span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="magenta" id="dtx-highlighting-item">Drugs</span>:<span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="blue" id="dtx-highlighting-item"> The </span>Pris<span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="yellow" id="dtx-highlighting-item">on </span>Industrial Complex</b></i></span></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-war-on-drugs/">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-war-on-drugs/</a></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691764325284790865.post-68283946066440462542011-09-18T15:39:00.001-06:002012-04-15T02:05:45.223-06:00America! Stand Up for Liberty, Truth & National Sovereignty!<div align="center"><img height="163" hspace="20" src="http://www.jilijiang.com/images/red-scarf-girl.jpg" width="108" /></div><div align="center"><span style="background-color: yellow;"><b>Friday, Sept. 23, 2011, 3:30-4 PM (Mountain Time), Mills' Guest was</b></span><br />
<span style="background-color: cyan;"><span style="color: red;"><b>Ji Li Jiang, <i>Red Scarf Girl, A Memoir of the Culture Revolution</i></b></span></span><br />
<span style="background-color: cyan; color: red;"><b>Mao's Red Book revolution that hit Communist China, 1966-7.</b></span><br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;"><a href="http://radiorecast.com/ktalk/archive/Mills_Crenshaw/Untitled%20%282%29.mp3"><span style="background-color: #ffe599; color: lime;">To hear show, click on this link line</span></a><span style="background-color: #ffe599; color: lime;">!</span></span></b><br />
<div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/z2tzUpVu3Cg?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2tzUpVu3Cg&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2tzUpVu3Cg&feature=related</a></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;">Darell Thorpe, Associate Producer: I'm working hard to bring KTKK listeners a line up of different types of shows, on different types of topics. I've read Ji Li Jiang's <i>Red Scarf Girl, A Memoir of the Culture Revolution. </i><b><span style="background-color: yellow;">It's an interesting story about what she says she went through during Mao's red book revolution days, 1966-7 in China. You don't want to miss this show!</span></b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/r0WWtAtc3HI?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;">You Tube: Declassified - Chairman Mao- China - Communist Part 4</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;">This is what Ji Li Jiang took part in & lived through, China 1966-7!</div></div><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div align="center"><span dir="ltr" id="eow-title" style="font-size: large;" title="One With Courage... Is A Majority!">One With Courage... Is A Majority!</span></div><div align="center"><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: large;" title="One With Courage... Is A Majority!"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tiananmen+square+massacre&aq=1&oq=Tiananmen+">Tiananmen Square Massacre - 1989</a></span></div><div align="center"><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: large;" title="One With Courage... Is A Majority!">Chinese students for Liberty vrs Communist Red China!</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">The song in this video is by Cold Play, <i>Fix You</i>.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;">See also the series: <i><a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=The+bloody+history+of+communism&aq=f">The Bloody History of Communism</a></i>!</span></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691764325284790865.post-24787533253724810042011-09-11T19:05:00.001-06:002012-04-15T02:05:45.182-06:00Martial Arts Marathon - Thursday, Sept. 15, 2011, 3:30-6 PM (Mountain Time Zone): Line Up so Far.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjYwPpdKGIy0LhyphenhyphenY_MSZlp5UNXYctPdawhSO7X3Qmm1m9mb9sAVdMBqXkxuzuzVz8hj8f8m1_3bf84dW4MZgIdiqz_34ntBZNLsmKDFWy5cxD0xZh8Ziy9jjsHPcyytrhNb9RukD02E8iM/s1600/Eddie+Edmunds+Jitsu+Class+8-23-2011+DT+KTKK+Photos+%252812%2529.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="225" nba="true" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjYwPpdKGIy0LhyphenhyphenY_MSZlp5UNXYctPdawhSO7X3Qmm1m9mb9sAVdMBqXkxuzuzVz8hj8f8m1_3bf84dW4MZgIdiqz_34ntBZNLsmKDFWy5cxD0xZh8Ziy9jjsHPcyytrhNb9RukD02E8iM/s400/Eddie+Edmunds+Jitsu+Class+8-23-2011+DT+KTKK+Photos+%252812%2529.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><span style="background-color: yellow;"><i><b>Martial Arts Marathon</b></i>, show line up: Thursday, Sept. 15th, 2011, 3:30 to 4:00 PM (Mountain Time).</span><br />
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Eddie Edmunds, will represent Jiu Jitsu. (Eddie holds black belts in Bihonte through Dan Berry; Black Belt in Gracie Jiu Jitsu from Pedro Sauer, & currently teaches a Jiu Jitsu class, <i><a href="http://fusionbjj.com/instructor.htm">Fusion Academy</a></i>, 650 East Wilmington Ave., Salt Lake City, 801-414-9852.<br />
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</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/TtdKpa7A3ao?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Eddie showing another Jiu Jitsu arm bar!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">For <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=eddie+edmunds+Fusion+jiu+jitsu&aq=f">More</a> on You Tube</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Eddie Edmunds & William Bernales both studied <i>Gracie Jiu Jitsu</i> from Pedro Sauer. </div><h1 id="watch-headline-title" style="text-align: center;"><span class="long-title" dir="ltr" id="eow-title" title="Mixed Martial Arts: Moves, Tactics & Concepts #2, Prof. Pedro Sauer of Rickson Gracie Jiu Jitsu"><span style="font-size: small;">You Tube: <i>Mixed Martial Arts: Moves, Tactics & Concepts #2,</i></span></span><span class="long-title" dir="ltr" title="Mixed Martial Arts: Moves, Tactics & Concepts #2, Prof. Pedro Sauer of Rickson Gracie Jiu Jitsu"><span style="font-size: small;"><i> Prof. Pedro Sauer of Rickson Gracie Jiu Jitsu,</i> about 2000(?), Salt Lake City, Utah. Pedro show some basic Jiu Jitsu moves.</span></span></h1><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/29dK0gwRRek?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/CrSDDcl7WU8?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;">Above: William Bernales, Teaching Kali, about 2000, Salt Lake City, Utah</span></h1><h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;">Below: Cheyanne demos a spinning elbow to Jim, a classic Thai Boxing move! </span> </h1><h1 style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIQvQqzIB2YpAsJBY5VL9KpUdiKbVhyeqTI1QtwjVccOsSwjy147LxQZnYbLuxUmX_77HUGF9w1sCw4BX5ACgSfvc0DBP5JXk0jrqT3ySuCz9HZaCWurnOYb7tdvT8tzI1BMS0lfTWcGs/s1600/Muay+Thai+boxing+8-19-2011+2+016.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="225" nba="true" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIQvQqzIB2YpAsJBY5VL9KpUdiKbVhyeqTI1QtwjVccOsSwjy147LxQZnYbLuxUmX_77HUGF9w1sCw4BX5ACgSfvc0DBP5JXk0jrqT3ySuCz9HZaCWurnOYb7tdvT8tzI1BMS0lfTWcGs/s400/Muay+Thai+boxing+8-19-2011+2+016.JPG" width="400" /></a></h1><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: yellow;">From <b>4:00 to 4:30 PM</b> (Mountain Time), Ryan Richards will talk about Muay Thai Boxing at Karey Law's <i>Muay Thai institute & fitness center</i>!</span></div><div style="background-color: #f3f3f3; text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: yellow;">Thai Boxing is also taught at the <i>Bernales Institute of Martial Arts</i></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: white;"><b>What is Muay Thai Boxing? Here's the above spinning elbow move in this You Tube Video!</b></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><object class="BLOGGER-youtube-video" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0" data-thumbnail-src="http://3.gvt0.com/vi/NGdC-U8tw_M/0.jpg" height="266" width="320"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NGdC-U8tw_M&fs=1&source=uds" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /><embed width="320" height="266" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NGdC-U8tw_M&fs=1&source=uds" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"><object class="BLOGGER-youtube-video" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0" data-thumbnail-src="http://0.gvt0.com/vi/4THE_n370Jg/0.jpg" height="266" width="320"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4THE_n370Jg&fs=1&source=uds" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /><embed width="320" height="266" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4THE_n370Jg&fs=1&source=uds" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;">Karey Law's Muay Thai institute & fitness center</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;">650 E. Wilmington Ave (2180 S) Salt Lake City, Utah, 801-474-3136</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><br />
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXWJFQzEVRsGCoyRxJJXHlwEv0mOuCy41dAEUSMisJPo1wQ7SbXg1xwhNLhbqfDM04A6eckg7wUi5si3_-V2svpCDEmHP3bdwnV0c365XCvIbX1terB8kHB9dOXiy3wa3xM7qQ0Ce74jU/s1600/Muay+Thai+boxing+8-24-2011+2+005.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="225" nba="true" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXWJFQzEVRsGCoyRxJJXHlwEv0mOuCy41dAEUSMisJPo1wQ7SbXg1xwhNLhbqfDM04A6eckg7wUi5si3_-V2svpCDEmHP3bdwnV0c365XCvIbX1terB8kHB9dOXiy3wa3xM7qQ0Ce74jU/s400/Muay+Thai+boxing+8-24-2011+2+005.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Robby Wyatt, Thai Instructor, in blue shorts, working out with Ryan Richards,</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">another Thai Boxer in the silver shorts, Sept. 2011, Salt Lake City, Utah.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjZ52SsGBGLzwLQPkOnah8psHrxVPQdYHENAfvlozX1XEMh3wocLGnvD_68t1_IlZBD3cob-lMCWP6hcdXVwS6O3BrQdamaBNQkEh4Pwv5dCik0DVNLLDQ5SXTP19gTBWEgekoTM5gkJY8/s1600/Muay+Thai+boxing+8-24-2011+2+011.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="225" nba="true" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjZ52SsGBGLzwLQPkOnah8psHrxVPQdYHENAfvlozX1XEMh3wocLGnvD_68t1_IlZBD3cob-lMCWP6hcdXVwS6O3BrQdamaBNQkEh4Pwv5dCik0DVNLLDQ5SXTP19gTBWEgekoTM5gkJY8/s400/Muay+Thai+boxing+8-24-2011+2+011.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Thai boxers are famous for their knockout knees & elbow strikes!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
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</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: yellow;">From 4:30 to 5:00 PM (Mountain Time), </span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: yellow;">Masters & Instructors from different Kenpo Karate schools</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: yellow;">will tell us about <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ed+Parker+Kenpo+Karate&aq=f">Ed Parker's Kenpo Karate</a> & their dojos (karate schools)</span></div><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;">Mills, with Tony Martinez Sr & Jr., & Kollin Avarell will talk about Kenpo Karate!<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieLplhC7CkwXRGyDIQDFQXsEQV27jhf-05AgsWcvcycWDivhC9Dn192AfGKiQKO9YOX77fieCGlnzb0tqVsR1lfHCSUFY3NuJjkY2odQ0vof0epBz4PVlALqAXqVA9DIlCrH1UPHgIJa0/s1600/Mills+Crenshaw+in+action+1964+Karate+Tournament.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="400" nba="true" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieLplhC7CkwXRGyDIQDFQXsEQV27jhf-05AgsWcvcycWDivhC9Dn192AfGKiQKO9YOX77fieCGlnzb0tqVsR1lfHCSUFY3NuJjkY2odQ0vof0epBz4PVlALqAXqVA9DIlCrH1UPHgIJa0/s400/Mills+Crenshaw+in+action+1964+Karate+Tournament.jpg" width="300" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Mills Crenshaw, host of <i>Drive Time Live</i>, 1964 Karate Tournament!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/WyP3AtUX4fg?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Tony in action!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/x44TgKWyq-A?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">More on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Tony+Martinez+Sr.&aq=f">You Tube of Tony Martinez Sr</a> in action!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/vtxcustoms#p/u/2/Z3poDp7Ko1s">Fun Action, testings, sparring & training at the Dojo, from: VTXCUSTOMS!</a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
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</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Let's not forget, <a href="http://radiorecast.com/ktalk/archive/Mills_Crenshaw/THUR%20JEFF%20SPEAKMAN%20MEETING%20TONIGHT.mp3">Jeff Speakman, who was also on KTKK</a>, July 2011!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_aWtX5jACw">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_aWtX5jACw</a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><object class="BLOGGER-youtube-video" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0" data-thumbnail-src="http://0.gvt0.com/vi/D_aWtX5jACw/0.jpg" height="266" width="320"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/D_aWtX5jACw&fs=1&source=uds" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /><embed width="320" height="266" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/D_aWtX5jACw&fs=1&source=uds" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object></div><br />
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</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Also on <a href="http://radiorecast.com/ktalk/archive/Mills_Crenshaw/TED%20SUMNER%2008-25-11.mp3">KTKK was Kenpo Master, Ted Sumner</a>, 8-25-11.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.utkenpo.com/">Kollin Avarell Kenpo 5.0 school</a> @ 3245 W. 7800 S. Ste. G,</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">West Jordan, Utah - 801-657-1190.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: yellow;"><b>From 5:00 to 5:30 PM (Mountain Time),</b></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: yellow;"><b> the <i>Martial Arts Marathon</i> show, for Thurs. 9-15-2011,</b></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: yellow;"><b>takes us into the musical world of the Afro-brazillian martial art, Capoeira!</b></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi65PQj2YIKvJSNLWEWRhaXzzSfi0as9nCq64Z5qKHyrzocci8cRMZjCftzVCCX-tcEddXeayxFA61EvE3i92ao7kZkyqWk89G6fN6iNSXlCfZA03befIH7VkFKZla7jNVEXx7RBQyjZNg/s1600/Mestrando+Jamaika+Salt+Lake+Capoeira+class+Wed+9-7-2011+%252859%2529.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="225" nba="true" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi65PQj2YIKvJSNLWEWRhaXzzSfi0as9nCq64Z5qKHyrzocci8cRMZjCftzVCCX-tcEddXeayxFA61EvE3i92ao7kZkyqWk89G6fN6iNSXlCfZA03befIH7VkFKZla7jNVEXx7RBQyjZNg/s400/Mestrando+Jamaika+Salt+Lake+Capoeira+class+Wed+9-7-2011+%252859%2529.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Mestrando <a href="http://www.saltlakecapoeira.com/">Jamaika</a>, playing on an afro-brazilian martial arts musical instrument, called <i><a href="http://www.livecapoeira.com/capoeira-articles/1/capoeira-instruments-the-berimbau.html">the berimbau</a></i>.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The <i>berimbau</i> is a gourd-resonated musical bow, a wooden pole (varga), and a steel string (arame).</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The singers will taps the steel string with a stick to compliment the beats of the drums, as they sing traditional spiritual songs, when they gather around in a circle to <a href="http://www.saltlakecapoeira.com/">dance & do Copoeira</a>!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The circle dance & songs creates the spiritual energy, called "axe" the "feel good music" or "good vibes," says Jamaika, which he tells his class, he hopes will continue to be felt. These <i>feelings</i> are equal to <i>KI</i> or <i>CHI</i>, the spiritual energy known in Asian Martial Arts. For Class information: <a href="mailto:saltlakecapoeira@gmail.com">saltlakecapoeira@gmail.com</a> Mestrando Jamaika, 801-633-4006.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><object class="BLOGGER-youtube-video" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0" data-thumbnail-src="http://3.gvt0.com/vi/dkek0b_ahOc/0.jpg" height="266" width="320"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/dkek0b_ahOc&fs=1&source=uds" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /><embed width="320" height="266" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/dkek0b_ahOc&fs=1&source=uds" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
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</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Mestrando Jamaika's Salt Lake City, Capoeira Class Photos, Fall 2011</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-090-QG8hgZ_T0DGTGoXTdGmA0Vdqrtnlhc4UidEL8tjxYueM_FhQt759IqGGtjWnqsHjewh0ao1ubSsEwPSL6dKQTuaW4RcJNRK9omzPVIMPq0o0NShN6Gp_wKhIvRWnU6oTAeCsHZI/s1600/Mestrando+Jamaika+Salt+Lake+Capoeira+class+Wed+9-7-2011+photos+365.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="225" nba="true" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-090-QG8hgZ_T0DGTGoXTdGmA0Vdqrtnlhc4UidEL8tjxYueM_FhQt759IqGGtjWnqsHjewh0ao1ubSsEwPSL6dKQTuaW4RcJNRK9omzPVIMPq0o0NShN6Gp_wKhIvRWnU6oTAeCsHZI/s400/Mestrando+Jamaika+Salt+Lake+Capoeira+class+Wed+9-7-2011+photos+365.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEina_N4Aaa09viVWxDbaKFrdNAnT3QRnWCJRn0-E_jaWhgIFwVo9EKLh646RWsvxxVIkeU1MV-GBe90Fno6mz4z6hCkB4wywny-xec4XqdbyxpVaxcdc5L_MfCdwPBbHbuLVWjkr1IOYkw/s1600/Mestrando+Jamaika+Salt+Lake+Capoeira+class+Wed+9-7-2011+%252888%2529.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="225" nba="true" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEina_N4Aaa09viVWxDbaKFrdNAnT3QRnWCJRn0-E_jaWhgIFwVo9EKLh646RWsvxxVIkeU1MV-GBe90Fno6mz4z6hCkB4wywny-xec4XqdbyxpVaxcdc5L_MfCdwPBbHbuLVWjkr1IOYkw/s400/Mestrando+Jamaika+Salt+Lake+Capoeira+class+Wed+9-7-2011+%252888%2529.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><span style="background-color: cyan;">Here's a few Martial Art scenes, for fun, from the producer, Darell Thorpe:</span></b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">A rather goofy, crazy, science fiction series, that blends historical themes with comical martial art scenes, is <i><b><span style="background-color: yellow;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/RESTOREDAPOLOGETICS#p/c/31AF1330F66A4E93/0/d8yl3a2YFjk">Cosmic Agents</a></span></b></i>, written by & starring, Darell Thorpe, Jim Thorpe & others. Keep in mind, they're still in rough draft stages of production & filming. About <b>5:35 minutes into this section</b>, is a <b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kqNvvn8coQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=335s">Capoeira Martial Artist</a>,</b> Ben Thorpe, who in these scenes, trains with a couple other fellow "Cosmic Agents!" Check out other strange, goofy, comical Martial Arts scenes from some of the other episodes: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr19L__h7Qw&feature=player_detailpage#t=18s">Episode 2</a>; another from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls_KVLrsD-s&feature=player_detailpage#t=164s">episode 2, part 6</a>. More strange but funny scenes with colorful effects, with disappearing phantom fighters, from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggbQwO5povc&feature=player_detailpage#t=103s">episode 3, part 5</a>! Another wild scene from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OLXJXVfCyM&feature=player_detailpage#t=437s">episode 3, part 4</a>. More in <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e5lbEoqSoM&feature=player_detailpage#t=361s">episode 2, part 3</a>. Another <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JTUz5It5dw&feature=player_detailpage#t=420s">one for fun</a>! Brothers' clones attacking each other, from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8yl3a2YFjk&feature=player_detailpage#t=436s">episode 1, part 1</a>. More crazy martial art scenes from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2F44Lqn_ek&feature=player_detailpage#t=387s">episode 1, part 5</a>. OK, enough of that, from the producer, now back to other Martial artists fun videos, photos & promos!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"></div><div style="text-align: center;"></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: large;"><b>From 5:30 to 6 PM, a representative from:</b></span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: large;"><b><i><a href="http://www.bernalesinstitute.com/">Bernales Institute of Martial Arts</a></i>, William Bernales or Ma'Afu Tauteoli, will talk about <i>Kali</i>, a deadly Filipino Martial Art!</b></span><br />
<div><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="color: navy; font-size: large;">William Bernales</span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="color: navy; font-size: large;">Owner / Chief Instructor</span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="background-color: red; color: navy; font-size: large;"><i><b>Bernales Institute of Martial Arts</b></i></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="color: navy; font-size: large;">(801) 463-1727</span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="color: navy; font-size: large;"><a href="mailto:will@bernalesinstitute.com">will@bernalesinstitute.com</a></span></span></div><div><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: large;">2257 S. State Street, Salt Lake City, Utah, 801-463-1727</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/qPxZF0n3CgU?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhHEW8nr1xOcvbpC-uxrJ19Z9h1R6Emm_tDcpmfRIS3iabzWjTSr4CU0bNZg30wltObRhC9FGfS7tCU66pNHHgtGVOF_492BxzrV03qp4AeH98A7SdPyzETpf8mblToUWwQk5byKfbmyww/s1600/Bernales+Institute+of+Martial+Arts-+Wed+9-7-2011+%252814%2529.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="180" nba="true" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhHEW8nr1xOcvbpC-uxrJ19Z9h1R6Emm_tDcpmfRIS3iabzWjTSr4CU0bNZg30wltObRhC9FGfS7tCU66pNHHgtGVOF_492BxzrV03qp4AeH98A7SdPyzETpf8mblToUWwQk5byKfbmyww/s320/Bernales+Institute+of+Martial+Arts-+Wed+9-7-2011+%252814%2529.JPG" width="320" /></a></div><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></span><br />
<div><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="color: navy; font-size: large;">William Bernales with <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dan+inosanto&aq=f">Dan Inosanto</a>,</span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: large;">who fought Bruce Lee in the Movie,</span></div><div><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: large;">"Game of Death," 1978</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/Fjh0dLDwv90?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><img border="0" height="180" nba="true" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgjDrnCDC1N12UabjQEzpqzCX9mbohdEOqmTP6B_847B14lRXJZyP98_nIOClgkMNIN-n1uIkM61t4OYJhyQeTwOikr6W9bRKj80Lh9RsV2g_HdR6owNgZAAuHlkZBpzY3G7UY-o3t7N4E/s320/Bernales+Institute+of+Martial+Arts-+Wed+9-7-2011+%252817%2529.JPG" width="320" /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: large;"></span> Will Bernales, early 2000's, teaching a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrSDDcl7WU8&feature=player_detailpage#t=434s"><i>Kali</i> class in Salt Lake City, Utah</a>.<br />
Will is also <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qtbRxFnutQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=60s">certified in other styles</a> that <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtNma14j9qI&feature=player_detailpage#t=156s">he teaches at his school</a>.<br />
In fact,<i> </i><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qtbRxFnutQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=74s"><i>Bernales Institute of Martial Arts</i></a> has a great <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUG4SQE1P0Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=241s">selection of styles</a> to learn from!<br />
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</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHPn3RdXKljIOVsVM7sFlbSy1dBdqyW-ryJLxQ7jCLY1IKoS_TU_M79HvMuG1waB2zV4xpFzjwrQkgdkgCmf-MI81ta8-1fC1f1fNa9XdXHQFlhXqoO_OmKpQeWHxqAle7ou9SHS3N5v8/s1600/Martial+Arts+Marathon+cards+thurs+9-15-2011+4+001.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHPn3RdXKljIOVsVM7sFlbSy1dBdqyW-ryJLxQ7jCLY1IKoS_TU_M79HvMuG1waB2zV4xpFzjwrQkgdkgCmf-MI81ta8-1fC1f1fNa9XdXHQFlhXqoO_OmKpQeWHxqAle7ou9SHS3N5v8/s640/Martial+Arts+Marathon+cards+thurs+9-15-2011+4+001.jpg" width="477" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: x-small;">I'm sure that Mills joins me, Darell Thorpe, Associate Producer, in many, many thanks to all those who took part in this <i>Martial Arts Marathon!</i> It took many hours of hard work to put this together, & we couldn't have done it with out the help of the many different Martial Artists' & their Instructors' help.</span></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: x-small;">To those I contacted, that couldn't fill the slots offered, or who for reasons unknown to me as to why; perhaps we'll have you on the next Martial Arts Marathon that we do. There is <span style="color: yellow;"><span style="color: red;">Shihan, Jeff Ruiz, who does a Polynesian Martial Arts</span> </span>class at the Highland Highschool, east of Sugarhouse Park, 2100 S., in Salt Lake City, Utah. Class through the Community Education Program, starting up next, Tues, 9-20-2011, & go every Tues & Thurs, 6:00 to 8:00 PM.</span></b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi1qLOkCrasnOVPtVOFBD0YpXYfP5BuhpUL1HrlyF6ZUEpbK8_0xFXOyEvjZkIVNb8QquxVEiRn-u7Z-WK1ZW0PgNE5cpnThPO5c5uazJ1LPsnkJdrFUFhy_YFQtDSy7eEZPtYMWFIpOl4/s1600/9-20-2011+martial+Arts+etc+105.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" hca="true" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi1qLOkCrasnOVPtVOFBD0YpXYfP5BuhpUL1HrlyF6ZUEpbK8_0xFXOyEvjZkIVNb8QquxVEiRn-u7Z-WK1ZW0PgNE5cpnThPO5c5uazJ1LPsnkJdrFUFhy_YFQtDSy7eEZPtYMWFIpOl4/s320/9-20-2011+martial+Arts+etc+105.JPG" width="320" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><i>Vairua</i> means in the Tahitian, <i>Spirit</i>, in this case, explains, 5th degree black belt</div><div style="text-align: center;">instructor, Jeff Ruiz: It's a Polynesian Martial Art that means, "Spirit of Survival!"</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwhRL7sj3LSBzK4xVLre-eUoNpb7EUC5KCL3eRfTgfruhhjKyQLHyhmKYA9uPAQp4EX8-LEsWSIh-a9IgSyD7MIDHJgmi6XVD1UE-3xT6aXXT18E1FxIs_I2atGPsCXrfBY-BpLlS03bw/s1600/9-20-2011+martial+Arts+etc+098.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" hca="true" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwhRL7sj3LSBzK4xVLre-eUoNpb7EUC5KCL3eRfTgfruhhjKyQLHyhmKYA9uPAQp4EX8-LEsWSIh-a9IgSyD7MIDHJgmi6XVD1UE-3xT6aXXT18E1FxIs_I2atGPsCXrfBY-BpLlS03bw/s320/9-20-2011+martial+Arts+etc+098.JPG" width="320" /></a></div><div>One of the Martial Arts Instructors that <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JTUz5It5dw&feature=player_detailpage#t=420s">I've trained with</a> & <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JTUz5It5dw&feature=player_detailpage#t=420s">hoped would have taken part in</a><br />
the <i>Martial Art Marathon</i>, or future ones, is 5th degree black belt, instructor, Jeff Ruiz. His classes are through the <i>Salt Lake Community Education System</i>, Highland High School, 2166 S. 17th E., Salt Lake City, Utah. Tues & Thurs., 6-7 Kids & 7-8 Adults. If you're interested in finding out about this Polynesian Martial Art Style, <i>Vairua</i>, contact <span style="background-color: yellow;"><b>Jeff at 801-243-3143.</b></span></div></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691764325284790865.post-37189158021625811732011-09-08T02:14:00.001-06:002012-04-15T02:05:45.189-06:00The Rise & History of Unions "Super States" for a "One World Government" sought by Globalists<div style="text-align: center;"></div><div class="inner-box-link-color" dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="lime" id="dtx-highlighting-item">The </span>birth of "<a href="http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/latter-day-saints/T4FKTRO1R01LT9N2Q/post33"><span style="color: #336688;">Unions</span></a>," such as <span style="font-style: italic;">European Union</span>, a super state, one in a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supranational_union"><span style="color: #336688;">number of states</span></a>,<span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="blue" id="dtx-highlighting-item"> for </span>World Government!</span></div><div class="inner-box-link-color" dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;"></div><ul><li><div style="text-align: left;">Mid-19th century<span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="magenta" id="dtx-highlighting-item"> to </span>2010, numerous concepts<span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="blue" id="dtx-highlighting-item"> for </span>a union between Canada, Mexico & United States, have been proposed. On <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement"><span style="color: #336688;">January 1, 1994,</span></a>is ano<span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="lime" id="dtx-highlighting-item">the</span>r globalist step called" <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union"><span style="color: #336688;">North American Free Trade Agreement, NAFTA, & is believed<span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="magenta" id="dtx-highlighting-item"> to </span>be a step<span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="magenta" id="dtx-highlighting-item"> to</span>wards</span></a><span dtx-highlight-backgroundcolor="lime" id="dtx-highlighting-item">the </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union"><span style="color: #336688;">North American Union!</span></a> </div></li>
</ul><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/VgjaJh-AF2s?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span dir="ltr" title="United We Fall Full length version"><i>United We Fall</i> (Full length version)</span> </div><div align="center"><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/02/evidences-of-book-of-mormons-lds.html">http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/02/evidences-of-book-of-mormons-lds.html</a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br />
<a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/07/dan-smoot-invisible-government-1962.html">http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/07/dan-smoot-invisible-government-1962.html</a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br />
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</div><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/hi/story/index.html">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/hi/story/index.html</a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Lisben+Treaty&aq=f">http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Lisben+Treaty&aq=f</a></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691764325284790865.post-55560267375469636672011-09-05T20:29:00.001-06:002012-04-15T02:05:45.207-06:00Some sources for: Conspiracy Theories - Fact or Faulty? Plus: The Rise & History of Unions, Super States With in the "1 World Government" Globalists Seek<h3 style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: small;">Sources & Documentaries to Support Comments Made on Shows:</span></b></h3><h3 style="text-align: center;"><b><i><a href="http://radiorecast.com/ktalk/archive/Mills_Crenshaw/Darell%20Thorpe%20of%20Conspiracy%20Theories.mp3">Conspiracy Theories: Fact or Faulty?</a></i> Aired on KTKK, Monday, 8-29-2011</b></h3><h3 style="text-align: center;"><b><i><a href="http://radiorecast.com/ktalk/archive/Mills_Crenshaw/FRI%20DARRELL%20UNION%20CONSPIRICIES%20OBAMAS%20JOBS%20SPEECH.mp3">The Rise & History of Unions, Super States With in the "One World Government" Globalists Seek</a></i>, Aired on KTKK, Fri. 9-9-2011</b></h3><h3 class="post-title entry-title">Main Sources for comments during shows derived From: <a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/02/globalists-time-line-of-events-of.html">Globalists' Time Line of Events of Secret Combinations' Works Towards their "New World Order!" by Darell Thorpe</a> </h3><div class="post-header"><div class="post-header-line-1"></div></div><div class="post-body entry-content" id="post-body-8774283412523495219" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><b>And: <a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/02/evidences-of-book-of-mormons-lds.html">Seeing World Orders Hidden in the Mosaics of World History: Globalists' Attacks on U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights & National Sovereignty!</a></b></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><b>And: <a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/03/evidences-that-historic-biblical.html">Evidences that "Historic Biblical Earlier Christianity" Had Temple Type "Mysteries"</a></b></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><b>And: <i><a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/07/dan-smoot-invisible-government-1962.html">Dan Smoot - Invisible Government</a></i> - 1962 Classic</b></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><br />
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</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/b4nXK6sSVnM?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><b>Faulty Conspiracy Theories' Use of Symbols</b></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><b>Would the <i>Boy Scouts</i> be Nazis! Both use Eagle Symbols! NO!</b></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><b>Vilification Tactics Exposed!</b></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/Kcjdp-ovC1I?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><b>Let Mills & Darell help you get rid of all of your<span style="background-color: yellow;"> 1 dollar bills</span></b> <b>that have</b></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><b>those "evil, n</b><b>asty, conspiratorial" Illuminati symbols on them!" </b></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="background-color: yellow;">Just send in all your 1 dollar bills & we'll make sure they're properly disposed of!</span></b></div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><b>(Joking of course)</b> </div><div align="left" style="text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: center;"><b>Early to later Christian Orders</b></div><b></b><br />
<div style="text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/W5MZIPPu4OA?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><div style="text-align: center;">Early Christian Orders & Rituals some of the Roots of Freemasonry</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/b0ylJJA7UkM?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Christian Knight Orders' Symbols, Oaths & Gestures passed down </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">to later Militant, Governmental Ceremonies, some Conspiratorial.</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; text-align: center;"></div></div></div><div style="text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/54xeRevLeCQ?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; text-align: center;">Numerous World Leaders Talking About a <i>New World Order</i><br />
Part of this was played on the air, Fri. 9-9-2011, KTKK</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"></div><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/x-CrNlilZho?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;">Alex Jones, End Game (A Must See documentary)</div><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;">One of the Documentaries DT told listeners & callers to see!</div><div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/6Avv70W650Q?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><b>1930-45</b>, Adolf Hitler & his followers, seek to establish an earlier version of the <i>European Union</i>, by force of arms & military conquests. Hitler's <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/u/74/6Avv70W650Q"><span style="color: blue;">unification</span></a> dreams & "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/c/DCB046FE454A7362/9/6Avv70W650Q"><span style="color: blue;">New Order</span></a>" in Europe, was to be part of & used to help bring in a "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/u/73/b0ylJJA7UkM"><span style="color: blue;">New World Order</span></a>." Hitler said: "National Socialism will use its own revolution for establishing a New World Order." (Alex Jones, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/c/CA2CC5B031A2051F/4/x-CrNlilZho"><span style="color: blue;">End Game</span></a>, Also: <i><a href="http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=The+Occult+History+of+the+Third+Reich&FORM=BVFD"><span style="color: blue;">The Occult History of the Third Reich</span></a></i>).</div><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/RESTOREDAPOLOGETICS#p/c/26AA89B58D77806C/1/_oE7JyD3wqI"><span style="color: blue;">June 26, 1945, the United Nations Charter was signed without the USA Senate even reading it</span></a>.<br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Malone"><span style="color: blue;"><b>George Wilson Malone</b> (August 7, 1890 - May 19, 1961)</span></a>, elected to the Senate 1946; & again, 1952. In a 1957 speech to the Senate, entitled, <i>The Banking System, </i>he warned: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the past 49 years, they would move on Washington, they would not wait for an election....It adds up to a preconceived plan to <b><i><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/c/0DE03524FA8D3C50/1/WSyevSj5IBs"><span style="color: blue;">destroy the economic and social independence of the United States</span></a></i></b>". Also, he believed "...that there is a pincers movement to destroy America-- by making the American people so subject to foreign control, and so dependent on foreign economic and political decisions, that America will surrender their national independence and accept membership in a <b style="background-color: yellow;">world-wide socialist dictatorship called <i>World Government</i></b>." </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: xx-small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px;">(<i>The Dan Smoot Report</i>, 1-8-1962), cited in: </span>Jerreld L. Newquist, <i><a href="http://newquist.org/PPNS/ppns.html"><span style="color: blue;">Prophets, Principles and National Survival</span></a>, </i>(Salt Lake City, Utah: Publishers Press, 1964), 453, note 25, emphasis added here.</span><br />
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March 13, 1958, Edward Hunter, <i><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/39936137/Communist-Psychological-Warfare"><span style="color: blue;">Communist Psychological Warfare (Brainwashing)</span></a></i>, 7-8: "Since Hungary, the world should know that communism is not an ideology except as a weapon for conquest.... They seek to conquer the United States in a manner so that it "voluntarily" falls into the Red orbit.... Their objective is to make the same use of the American people as they make of the Czechs in the uranium mines in Czechoslovakia, and as they make of the Chinese in the mills of China. We are to become subjects of a "<b style="background-color: yellow;"><i>New World Order</i></b>" for the benefit of a mad little knot of despots in the Kremlin." <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: xx-small;">(Emphasis added). Newquist, <i><a href="http://newquist.org/PPNS/ppns.html"><span style="color: blue;">Prophets, Principles and National Survival</span></a>, </i>211-212, note 2).</span><br />
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1959, November 25, Study No. 7, published by CFR, openly states that they are "building a new international order... including states labeling themselves as 'Socialist'." They also don't try to hide the fact that their goal is to "abolish the United States with its Constitutional guarantees of liberty."<br />
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September 1961, US Department of State published <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/c/F77C8E735D3F732D/2/qyu1fHdfIew"><span style="color: blue;"><i>Freedom from War</i>, <i>The United States Program for General & Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World</i>,</span></a> Department of State <a href="http://www.libertylobby.org/articles/1997/19970623disarmament.html"><span style="color: blue;">#7277, Disarmament Series 5</span></a>, which states plans to <a href="http://www.panix.com/%7Ehd-fxsts/disarm.html"><span style="color: blue;">disarm the USA & the nations, while in progressive stages, arming the United Nations</span></a> to the point where "<a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/22476952/Freedom-From-War-1961"><span style="color: blue;">no state could challenge the progressively strengthened United Nations Peace Force</span></a>."<br />
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To be Archived, More from Mills Show, 1988.</div><div style="text-align: left;">1970, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser, wrote in <i>Between Two Ages</i>, for the establishment of a <i><b>new international monetary system and a global taxation system</b></i>.</div><div align="center" style="text-align: left;"><br />
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From the Archives of one of Mills shows, 1988.</div><div style="text-align: left;"></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
1990's Communist leader Gorbachev also spoke of working towards a "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/u/23/hZTt9o1Ypo8"><span style="color: blue;">New World Order</span></a>" too.</div><div style="text-align: left;">1991, President George Bush, during the Persian Gulf War, uses the U.N. peace force to pounce on any nation, if it should step out of line behind the banner of "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/c/F77C8E735D3F732D/2/qyu1fHdfIew"><span style="color: blue;">The New World Order</span></a>." This is what may have happened in the cases with the leaders of Panama and Iraq.</div><div style="text-align: left;">1991, January 29, President George Bush said during his State of the Union address that what was happening in the Persian Gulf War was "something larger than ourselves... [as Americans. For] What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea: a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/c/370068BF2414B142/0/NO24XmP1c5E"><span style="color: blue;">new world order</span></a>... The world can therefore seize this opportunity to fulfill the long-held promise of a new world order."</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
Late 1960s early 1970s?, during a Brigham Young University Devotional, and during his talk <i>Vietnam--Victory Or Surrender</i>, the apostle Ezra Taft Benson expressed his opinions, and gave this warning: There is an international secret combination which has, for many years now, been working hard to destroy the American Constitution, so that they can replace it with a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/c/F77C8E735D3F732D/2/qyu1fHdfIew"><span style="color: blue;">One World Government</span></a> constitution. This combination is responsible for creating the communist founded, and communist controlled United Nations charter. Furthermore, they seek to shred the United States constitution in order to merge America and the communist countries into a <i>One World Government</i>. He further warned that the time was very close at hand when the prophecy about the constitution hanging by a thread, was about to come to pass. He called upon Church members, and all righteous freedom loving Americans to awake to this international secret combination which seeks to overthrow our constitutional freedom, and the freedom of all nations.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/NO24XmP1c5E?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">(To hear numerous world leaders talk about the New World Order, One World Government, see:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><i><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr#p/c/0/NO24XmP1c5E">Invisible Empire - A New World Order Defined</a></b></i>, by Jason Bermas, Produced by Alex Jones).</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><br />
</div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;">President Richard Nixon: "Nixon would like to preside over the creation of a new world order..." This phrase the "new world order" was often used by Nixon when speaking of the super state.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">President George Bush, January 29, 1991, State of the Union address: "What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea: a new world order... The world can therefore seize this opportunity to fulfill the long-held promise of a new world order."</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">President Bill Clinton, Los Angeles Times, January 21: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr?feature=mhum#p/u/82/yZLiUYVqhvc"><span style="color: blue;">"I like George Bush and many of our predecessors, are dedicated to the Novus Ordo Seclorum"-- The beginning of the New Age. Or the New World Order</span></a>.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
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<div style="text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/VebOTc-7shU?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;">2010, freedoms, rights, & the constitution is under the ax again, "in the name of protecting freedoms," and in the name of "security," as modern inventions are used to spy, scan bodies down to the bear skin, invade, regulate, fine, tax & put in jail different ones for the smallest "fractions," of stupid unjust laws that are enforced by an ever increasing police state. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=TSA+saving+naked+body+scans&aq=f"><span style="color: blue;"><i>Transportation Security Administration = TSA's</i> body scanner positions at USA's airports</span></a>. (See: <a href="http://www.sprword.com/videos/endofliberty/"><span style="color: blue;">End of Liberty</span></a>, Directed by Greg Parker).</div></div><br />
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type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></OBJECT></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;">Jerreld L. Newquist, <i><a href="http://newquist.org/PPNS/ppns.html"><span style="color: blue;">Prophets, Principles and National Survival,</span></a> </i>(Salt Lake City, Utah: Publishers Press, 1964), 223-24 & 226, 228, from J. Reuben Clark, <i>Church News,</i> section of the <i>Deseret New, </i>6-16-1945. Emphasis in original, bold & yellow added here.</div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
LDS Apostle, Ezra Taft Benson, BYU Devotional talk, <i>Vietnam - Victory or Surrender, </i>(Provo, Utah: Brigham Young University, Electronic Media Department, Recording Operations Section/ Room E-366 HFAC; BYU, Tape K1389. Benson mentions Joseph Smith's prophecy about the Constitution hanging by a thread & said that the prophet at that time said that we are near that time. See: <a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_24404783"><span style="color: blue;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Tahoma,Helvetica,FreeSans,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 19px;"><i>Prophecies In Light of Historical & Current Events: Prophecies Coming to Pass?!</i> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: xx-small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Tahoma,Helvetica,FreeSans,sans-serif; line-height: 21px;"><i>A Look at Prophecies & their Possible Coming to Pass</i></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Tahoma,Helvetica,FreeSans,sans-serif; line-height: 22px;"><i> in Light of Historical Evidences & Current Events! </i></span></span></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Tahoma,Helvetica,FreeSans,sans-serif; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: xx-small;"><a href="http://restoredgospelevidences.blogspot.com/2011/03/prophecies-in-light-of-testimonies-of.html"><span style="color: blue;">DT 3-14-201</span></a>1,</span> </span>scroll down to: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Tahoma,Helvetica,FreeSans,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;"><i>Prophecies that Warn that the USA's Government & Constitution Would "Hang by a Thread!</i> </span>See also: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Antony+C+Sutton&aq=f"><span style="color: blue;">You Tube, Antony C. Sutton lectures & presentations</span></a>. He warns about secret combinations, the One World Government & New World Order being sought by globalists. See also link lists on <a href="http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/latter-day-saints/T4FKTRO1R01LT9N2Q"><span style="color: blue;">Topix: Why Aren't All Nations Free? Freedom Should Be For Free!</span></a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: blue;"><br />
</span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><div style="text-align: left;">John Robison, A.M., <i>Proofs Of A Conspiracy, 1798, Against All The Religions And Governments Of</i></div></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><div style="text-align: left;"><i>Europe, Carried On In The Secret Meetings Of Free Masons, Illuminati,</i> (New York: George Forman,</div></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><div style="text-align: left;">1798, republished: Boston; Los Angeles: Western Islands, The Americanist Classics, 1967)<br />
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Gary Allen, <i><a href="http://www.archive.org/stream/NoneDareCallItConspiracy/NDCC#page/n1/mode/2up"><span style="color: blue;">None Dare Call It Conspiracy</span></a></i>, (Rossmoor, California: Concord Press, 1971 & 1972.<br />
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Gary H. Kah, <i>En Route to Global Occupation, A High Ranking Government Liaison</i></div></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><div style="text-align: left;"><i>Exposes the Secret Agenda for World Unification,</i> (Lafayette, Louisiana: Huntington House Publishers,</div></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><div style="text-align: left;">1991).</div></div><div style="text-align: left;">U.S. George Washington Bicentennial Commission, The Writings of George Washington Vol. 20 (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1941), 518.<br />
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Ralph Epperson, <i>The Conspiratorial View of History</i> (Tucson: Epperson, 1986), 2; Louis T. McFadden, Collective Speeches of Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Hawthorne, CA: Omni Publications, 1970), 2.</div><div style="text-align: left;"></div><div style="text-align: left;">Peter Collier and David Horowitz, <i>The Rockefellers, An American Dynasty,</i> (New York, New York:</div><div style="text-align: left;">A Signet Book, New American Library, Time Mirror, 1976), p. 48, see also: Andrew Carnegie, North American Review, June 1889.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">Anthony J. Hilder, talk show host of Radio Free World, (Nevada), during the 1990's, he interviewed <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr#p/u/11/Kcjdp-ovC1I"><span style="color: blue;">Terry Cook about 666 The Mark of the Beast</span></a>. During this show they talked about the Federal Reserve's plans to print new money for the coming New World Order. Also: Chuck Smith, a Christian preacher's talk entitled: <i>What in the World is Happening</i>, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Fire Fighters for Christ, tape series).</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">Robert W. Lee, The United Nations Conspiracy, (Boston; Los Angeles: Western Islands Publishers,</div><div style="text-align: left;">1981).</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">Gary Allen, The Rockefeller File, (Seal Beach, California: '76 Press, 1976.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">Historical video documentary: The Great War, (Produced by Carl Byker, Akcet Production, aired on</div><div style="text-align: left;">KBYU, TV channel 11, July 1998).</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">Dan Smoot, The Invisible Government, (Dallas, Texas: The Dan Smoot Report, Inc., 1962).</div><div style="text-align: left;"></div><div style="text-align: left;">G. Edward Griffin, The Fearful Master (Boston: Western Islands, 1964).</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
An old World War II film documentary shows Mr. Cordell Hull speaking out against the Nazis establishing militant strong holds in different South American countries. See the series: Why We Fight; And: DT, video documentary, Endangered Species: Humanity, parts 1 & 2, 1997, etc.<br />
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Historical Documentary: <i><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071075/episodes">The World At War</a> </i>series, especially Season 1, Episode 20: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071075/episodes">Genocide: 1941-1945</a>.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., <i>The Age of Roosevelt, The Crisis Of The Old Order, 1919--1933,</i></div><div style="text-align: left;">(Cambridge, Massachusetts: The Riverside Press, Houghton Mifflin Company Boston, 1964)<br />
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The Occult History of The Third Reich, volumes 1--4, by Video Treasures, 1991.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">James Burnham, The Web of Subversion, (Boston and Los Angeles: Western Islands, The American</div><div style="text-align: left;">Library, 1954).</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">John A. Stormer, None Dare Call It Treason, (Florissant, Missouri: Liberty Bell Press, 1964).<br />
Stormer, The Death of a Nation, (Florissant, Missouri: Liberty Bell Press, 1968).</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">Ralph de Toledano, <i>Seeds of Treason</i>, (Boston, Western Islands, 1965 [1950].</div><div style="text-align: left;">Allen Weinstein, <i>Perjury: The Hiss-Chambers Case,</i> (New York: Knopf, 1978).<br />
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Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages--America's Role in the Technetronic Era (New York: Penguin Books, 1970).<br />
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Rose L. Martin, <i>The Selling of America,</i> (Santa Monica, California: Fidelis Publishers, 1973).</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">The Trilateral Commission, The Trilateral Commission--Questions and Answers (New York: North American Office, 1986).<br />
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Wendell Willkie, One World, (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1943).</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;">Mills Crinshaw interviewed Constance Cumbey on KTKK "K-talk" 630 AM Radio, December 18, 1988. Cumbey says that Gorbachev talked about establishing a "New World Order". <br />
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Video Documentaries: The Panama Deception. The Persian Gulf War. Desert Storm.<br />
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W. Cleon Skousen, The Naked Communist, (Salt Lake City, Utah: The Ensign Publishing Company, 1958, 1960, & 1961).</div></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691764325284790865.post-51197771628216981082011-09-05T19:34:00.001-06:002012-04-15T02:05:45.198-06:00Callin All the Clans Together, written & performed by James Hooker<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/Cmr-tFPUx9M?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmr-tFPUx9M">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmr-tFPUx9M</a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><i><b>Callin All the Clans Together</b></i>, written & performed by James Hooker</div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0